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I LOVE GIGGS on 16 February 2009

Forza 2 sold more than 2.5m without bundle!



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Barozi on 16 February 2009
Signalstar said:
Barozi said:
Signalstar said:
O_o Where was I trolling? Look at the sales of the game it was below 10k within its first 10 weeks in Others and America.

The original only sold 1 million copies, this one sold 4 times that. It literally came with every core and premium 360 from September 2007 to January 08 check the weekly data from then and you will see. I never said it was a bad game hell its rated higher than Gran Turismo.

People love to point out how LBP, Resistance, and even Uncharted are bundled. I never meant any offense to anyone just pointing out how much help the game needed to reach its sales. Even GT5 P is bundled in Japan and Others.

How is pointing out heavy bundling trolling?

Forza 2 still sold over 2 million copies without bundles.

Signalstar said:

The only reason Forza 2 sold so well was that it was bundled with nearly every 360 sold in holiday 07

THAT is trolling.

If it makes you feel better take out the word only. Still does not make it any less true.

I wasn't the one who bitched about your trolling.

We all know how Forza 2 sold without bundles, so there's no need to downplay the numbers.

And I personally call 2 or 2.5 million sales VERY WELL.



BeTa77 on 16 February 2009

Forza 3 might take awhile to make, look at GT5.



wholikeswood on 16 February 2009

Already posted this in the "Big 3 for Fall 09" thread.

This thread title is pretty misleading, really. Forza is not by the stretch of anyone's imagination a system seller.



Munkeh111 on 16 February 2009
kowenicki said:
@ wholikeswood

because there is no such thing as a system seller this far into a gen.... there just isnt...

and I dont think any 360 fans think that there is... PS3 fans on the other hand...

Metal Gear Solid 4, Halo 3, Grand Theft Auto IV, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, Gears of War... they were all system sellers



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wholikeswood on 16 February 2009

@ Kowe: Could have just called it "Forza 3 for Xmas 09" then. :/

I'm only saying, brotha.



papflesje on 16 February 2009
kowenicki said:
@ wholikeswood

because there is no such thing as a system seller this far into a gen.... there just isnt...

and I dont think any 360 fans think that there is... PS3 fans on the other hand...

 

Yeah, no xbox fan on this site ever said that Fable 2 and GoW2 wouldn't sell systems :)  Why are xbox fans "holier than thou" all of a sudden?


And about the GT5:  So that's why people think it's often a good idea by MS to place similar titles in the same time bracket as titles from Sony?  It's not because they only steal the spotlight, but ALSO because they steal sales.  So them wanting to bring this out in Q4 (in case GT also releases then), is again a case of both: stealing spotlight away from GT and stealing sales whenever possible.  That's the entire point of releasing such games (like GoW and others <=> R2 and others) in close vicinity.



FreeTalkLive on 16 February 2009

I agree, as long as this game is bundled with the Xbox 360 at no additional cost to the consumer, it will be a system seller. Xbox 360 should also bundle another game with the system, like Microsoft usually does, if it wants to sell systems.



 

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Tyrannical on 16 February 2009

I can imagine the meltdown if Forza:3 out reviews GT:5.



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mrstickball on 16 February 2009

Good to see that rumors are now popping up about Microsoft's Q4 lineup. Some people have been arguing that Q4 09 wouldn't be very good. But if F3 does get confirmed, that's a pretty big game to have. Forza isn't Microsoft's biggest IP by any means, but it should sell 2-3 million units readily, and is on par with Fable, IMO, as a franchise in terms of popularity.

Would F3 hurt GT5? Maybe. If Microsoft promotes F3 as a cheap alternative to buying a PS3 + GT5 (which could cost almost twice as much as an arcade + F3), it could hurt PS3 sales this Christmas - but not GT5 sales from consumers that already own the console.



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