Sorry for everyone who loses their jobs because of this, but THANK GOD! One less has-been developer is a good thing. Now, if only Ubisoft would go bankrupt...
Sorry for everyone who loses their jobs because of this, but THANK GOD! One less has-been developer is a good thing. Now, if only Ubisoft would go bankrupt...
| Kantor said: Sorry for everyone who loses their jobs because of this, but THANK GOD! One less has-been developer is a good thing. Now, if only Ubisoft would go bankrupt...we would miss some of the best games of this gen. |
Barozi said:
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They murdered Rainbow Six, mortally wounded Ghost Recon, and hit Splinter Cell over the head with a giant hammer.
Ah well, Prince of Persia is still good. As long as they keep that, I'm happy for them to stay in.
Also, they killed Free Radical, managed to make a game where you play as a guy who jumps from rooftop to rooftop stabbing people with a hidden blade something other than excellent, and aren't putting Conviction on PS3 
I would buy it, I swear. I don't care if Double Agent sucked.
Kantor said:
They murdered Rainbow Six, mortally wounded Ghost Recon, and hit Splinter Cell over the head with a giant hammer. Ah well, Prince of Persia is still good. As long as they keep that, I'm happy for them to stay in. Also, they killed Free Radical, managed to make a game where you play as a guy who jumps from rooftop to rooftop stabbing people with a hidden blade something other than excellent, and aren't putting Conviction on PS3 I would buy it, I swear. I don't care if Double Agent sucked. |
Nah they've changed R6 in a positive way. The old games were too much of the same.
Vegas and especially Vegas 2 are great R6 games. Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter and the sequel are much better than they predecessors. Only SC Double Agent is not as good as the previous games in the series.
I'm sure Conviction will be better and they don't put it on the PS3, because they made an agreement, that Haze stays PS3 and Conviction PC/360 exclusive.
Assassin's Creed was my personal GOTY 2007 contender. AC2 will be more than huge !!!!
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There are far more other bad studios, which should die before Ubisoft.
Barozi said:
Nah they've changed R6 in a positive way. The old games were too much of the same. Vegas and especially Vegas 2 are great R6 games. Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter and the sequel are much better than they predecessors. Only SC Double Agent is not as good as the previous games in the series. I'm sure Conviction will be better and they don't put it on the PS3, because they made an agreement, that Haze stays PS3 and Conviction PC/360 exclusive. Assassin's Creed was my personal GOTY 2007 contender. AC2 will be more than huge !!!! _______________________________________________________________________ There are far more other bad studios, which should die before Ubisoft. |
Rainbow Six was a Tactical FPS series, so how were they more of the same?! Right now R6's newest games are nothing more than generic FPS. What does R6 Vegas and Vegas 2 have different than the other recent FPS?
Barozi said:
Nah they've changed R6 in a positive way. The old games were too much of the same. Vegas and especially Vegas 2 are great R6 games. Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter and the sequel are much better than they predecessors. Only SC Double Agent is not as good as the previous games in the series. I'm sure Conviction will be better and they don't put it on the PS3, because they made an agreement, that Haze stays PS3 and Conviction PC/360 exclusive. Assassin's Creed was my personal GOTY 2007 contender. AC2 will be more than huge !!!! _______________________________________________________________________ There are far more other bad studios, which should die before Ubisoft. |
They destroyed Rainbow Six, and you know it.
Ghost Recon, they didn't kill. However, it could have been a lot better, especially GRAW2. GRAW was still an excellent game. GRAW2 wasn't bad, it was pretty good. But it's not what I had come to expect from Ubisoft. Ubisoft, whose stories are usually good. Mexican rebels with nuclear weapons? Really?
And now, Assassin's Creed. What it did well, it did brilliantly. What it didn't do so well brought down its quality severely. With a better combat system, fewer, shorter pointless monologues where supervillains go on about their childhood, and maybe, just maybe, a story that you couldn't predict the ending to within an hour of beginning the game (although, I'll admit, the connection between the Middle Ages and modern times I didn't see coming), it could have been one of my favourite games of all time. What came out was a mostly rather boring game, with some moments where it really shone. The assassinations, leaping from building to building escaping guards, looking out over a city from a view point, SOME of the cutscenes.
The game was brought down by the repetitive menial tasks, the rest of the cutscenes, and the second last boss battle, not to mention how guards swarm you after every assassination, and you have to use that awful combat system to kill them all. Because you can't escape that many guards.
Assassin's Creed 2 has the potential to fix a lot of the things wrong with AC, because most of the problems were just bad design choices rather than a lack of development skill. IGN were too harsh on AC, GameSpot were too lenient.
Wow, that was off topic. You're right, though. A lot of developers *cough DICE cough* need to die before Ubisoft. They haven't quite reached EA level crappiness yet, they still make the occasional great game.
In case you're interested, my personal GoTY 2007 choice was BioShock. But that's even more off topic. It's a shame that an underwhelming game like Assassin's Creed can outsell a masterpiece like BioShock.
shio said:
Rainbow Six was a Tactical FPS series, so how were they more of the same?! Right now R6's newest games are nothing more than generic FPS. What does R6 Vegas and Vegas 2 have different than the other recent FPS? |
No I meant Rainbow Six 1-3 and the 5 expansions (I own all of them btw) were too similar.
Lockdown has changed that, but it was just badly executed. (That was a generic FPS without any kind of tactical elements)
@ Kantor
What you dislike DICE ??? You just made a big mistake sir
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| Barozi said: No I meant Rainbow Six 1-3 and the 5 expansions (I own all of them btw) were too similar. Lockdown has changed that, but it was just badly executed. (That was a generic FPS without any kind of tactical elements)
@ Kantor What you dislike DICE ??? You just made a big mistake sir |
Two words: Mirror's Edge. No, actually, I don't want a four hour game with awful graphics, a non-existent story, terrible shooting, motion sickness, and BLOOM everywhere.
Speaking of series murder, Battlefield: Bad Company. And Battlefield Heroes...*facepalm*
Hell, the enormous majority of EA sucks. Remember when they were good? Those were the days...
Same with Ubisoft.
Most really old developers seem to suck now, the new(er) ones, or ones who were previously unheard of, like 2K, Bethesda, and Sony's entire first party are better.
The only good long-time developers left are Capcom and Nintendo. Maybe Square Enix. Depends how you define "long-time". And how you define "good".
Not too surprising although I'm sorry for the job loss. The really hadn't done all that well this generation. Their only two "hits" were Game Party on the Wii (1.9M) and Touchmaster on the DS (1.4m). They had a total of 2 Wii, 3 DS and 1 XBox 360 game to break 500K, none of them particually memorable.
Then again, they hadn't ever done too well. Going back to the N64 they only had 6 games break a million and their biggest hit was Mortal Kombat Trilogy on the PS (2.8M). When Game Party is your third biggest hit ever, maybe the gaming world is passing you by.

You can say about Mirror's Edge what you want, but the graphics were really good.
Don't know about Battlefield Heroes, but Bad Company was a great game.
The first BF with a nice singleplayer campaign and of course awesome multiplayer.