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nightsurge said:
V-r0cK said:
IMO Snake would win. Snake always fights against these odd-abnormal-beyond human villains and still manages to find a way to defeat them. Master Chief is no different to some of the villains =P

If you are considering Snake to be normal, then Master Chief is no different.  He is basically a Snake that has been enhanced and improved even more.  Plus, Master Chief faces thousands of enemies with vastly superior technology in all terrains and still wins, not 50-100 human soldiers in a city environment with plenty of cover spaces.

MC wins.  Keep your arguments coming, Snake fans.  I'll shoot them down all day with the MC's greatness!

 

Snake has buddies. Such has raiden. . . have you played MGS4? Raiden could cut MC into 15 peices in a blink of an eye with no freaking arms. 



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nightsurge said:
V-r0cK said:
IMO Snake would win. Snake always fights against these odd-abnormal-beyond human villains and still manages to find a way to defeat them. Master Chief is no different to some of the villains =P

If you are considering Snake to be normal, then Master Chief is no different.  He is basically a Snake that has been enhanced and improved even more.  Plus, Master Chief faces thousands of enemies with vastly superior technology in all terrains and still wins, not 50-100 human soldiers in a city environment with plenty of cover spaces.

MC wins.  Keep your arguments coming, Snake fans.  I'll shoot them down all day with the MC's greatness!

 

 I can understand Sony fanboys bias, because MGS has a superior storyline, but as far as characters go MC destroys Snake.



Sharky54 said:
nightsurge said:
V-r0cK said:
IMO Snake would win. Snake always fights against these odd-abnormal-beyond human villains and still manages to find a way to defeat them. Master Chief is no different to some of the villains =P

If you are considering Snake to be normal, then Master Chief is no different.  He is basically a Snake that has been enhanced and improved even more.  Plus, Master Chief faces thousands of enemies with vastly superior technology in all terrains and still wins, not 50-100 human soldiers in a city environment with plenty of cover spaces.

MC wins.  Keep your arguments coming, Snake fans.  I'll shoot them down all day with the MC's greatness!

 

Snake has buddies. Such has raiden. . . have you played MGS4? Raiden could cut MC into 15 peices in a blink of an eye with no freaking arms. 

Are you seriously trying to include the respective characters' allies as part of the equation?

So can we include the Covenant Separatists and the USNC military divisions?



Khuutra said:
Snake wins.

Even given Khuutra's "face to face" situation, one second Chief could be looking Snake in the eye, and the next second, Snake is gone. Chief wouldn't be able to find him, and Snake would just crunk his neck.

And, as shown by that video of when Snake first meets Big Mama, you can't just run up on Snake with a gun, even if you have multiple people.

So both scenarios, straight up fight or looking eye to eye, results in Chief getting destroyed by Snake. And I mean, worst come to worst, Snake will throw an EMP, short circuit Chief's suit, and then just slap him around a little bit, before pulling his M1911 and blowing Chief's head away.

This is silly. Snake is a bad man, but he's not even in the same league as the Chief, neither in terms of hand-to-hand combat skills no in terms of physical ability. The Chief's reaction time alone is more than twice as fast as the absolute fastest non-augmented human. Chief would tear Snake to pieces. There's no way around it.

Question:

When has Chief ever shown to be proficient in hand to hand combat?

When has Chief been shown to have super physical ability (other than jumping a billion feet in the air on low gravity planets)?

When has his reaction time been shown to be any higher than a normal human?

And you say "non-augmented" human? Who do you think Snake is? If Snake hears an ant move, he'll know precisely where it's at and have the barrel of a gun pointed directly on top of it....all in an instant



Good god fanboys for sony just stop


Snake is a bad as but he is nothing compared to the chief

Plain and simple strip then to a loin cloth and give each a knife

In the time it takes Snake to inhale and take half a step MC has already crossed the room and ripped his head off with one hand—why?---b/c as is his body was made into the perfect weapon (and that is even with out the suit)

The only way snake could land a hit is if all the lights were turned off and he snuck up on a humane ( that responds faster then snake can think) and said please don’t move I am going to try and stab my knife thru your skull

*stabs and barly makes a dent in the back of MC head)

Where upon MC rips Snake head off with one hand


And don’t even get me started about breaking a neck…..seriously?

Okay let say he does get behind MC and starts to wrap his arms around chiefs neck to try and snap it, that is where it would stop

Due to his increased reaction time as soon as the chief felt the touch of snake he would drop and thro a punch with such force it tear threw Snakes body---

And even if he let him wrap up snake would not have the physical strength to break the neck…I am not sure if he could even get Chief to start turning his head



 

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BMaker11 said:
Khuutra said:
Snake wins.

Even given Khuutra's "face to face" situation, one second Chief could be looking Snake in the eye, and the next second, Snake is gone. Chief wouldn't be able to find him, and Snake would just crunk his neck.

And, as shown by that video of when Snake first meets Big Mama, you can't just run up on Snake with a gun, even if you have multiple people.

So both scenarios, straight up fight or looking eye to eye, results in Chief getting destroyed by Snake. And I mean, worst come to worst, Snake will throw an EMP, short circuit Chief's suit, and then just slap him around a little bit, before pulling his M1911 and blowing Chief's head away.

This is silly. Snake is a bad man, but he's not even in the same league as the Chief, neither in terms of hand-to-hand combat skills no in terms of physical ability. The Chief's reaction time alone is more than twice as fast as the absolute fastest non-augmented human. Chief would tear Snake to pieces. There's no way around it.

Question:

When has Chief ever shown to be proficient in hand to hand combat?

When has Chief been shown to have super physical ability (other than jumping a billion feet in the air on low gravity planets)?

When has his reaction time been shown to be any higher than a normal human?

And you say "non-augmented" human? Who do you think Snake is? If Snake hears an ant move, he'll know precisely where it's at and have the barrel of a gun pointed directly on top of it....all in an instant

 

in case you didnt know its all explained in the book series as well as hinted at in the instruction manuals mentioned in pasing in the game series



 

BMaker11 said:
Khuutra said:
Snake wins.

Even given Khuutra's "face to face" situation, one second Chief could be looking Snake in the eye, and the next second, Snake is gone. Chief wouldn't be able to find him, and Snake would just crunk his neck.

And, as shown by that video of when Snake first meets Big Mama, you can't just run up on Snake with a gun, even if you have multiple people.

So both scenarios, straight up fight or looking eye to eye, results in Chief getting destroyed by Snake. And I mean, worst come to worst, Snake will throw an EMP, short circuit Chief's suit, and then just slap him around a little bit, before pulling his M1911 and blowing Chief's head away.

This is silly. Snake is a bad man, but he's not even in the same league as the Chief, neither in terms of hand-to-hand combat skills no in terms of physical ability. The Chief's reaction time alone is more than twice as fast as the absolute fastest non-augmented human. Chief would tear Snake to pieces. There's no way around it.

Question:

When has Chief ever shown to be proficient in hand to hand combat?

When has Chief been shown to have super physical ability (other than jumping a billion feet in the air on low gravity planets)?

When has his reaction time been shown to be any higher than a normal human?

And you say "non-augmented" human? Who do you think Snake is? If Snake hears an ant move, he'll know precisely where it's at and have the barrel of a gun pointed directly on top of it....all in an instant

....Read The Fall of Reach and Ghosts of Onyx, for starters.

The chief, before his augmentation, accidentally killed three elite orbital drop soldiers in hand to hand sparring. This would be when he was thirteen or fourteen, I think. Later on, he sustains massive internal injuries, fights a Brute (which is basically a really pissed off rhinoceros-gorilla) hand to hand, and wins.

He can run over 65 miles an hour (albeit with the armor - it's unknown how fast he is without it, but Spartans were recorded at over 35 miles an hour when they were still adjusting to their augmentations, so they are much faster) and survive a fall from outside of a planet's atmosphere, although this is partially thanks to his armor. Prior to having his armor, he fell from more than a mile up out of a dropship and survived the impact.

His reaction time is 20 milliseconds, and it is significantly faster in combat. Again, this is unarmored: once his armor is plugged into his nervous system, his reaction time is so fast it is essentially instantaneous. It's not higher, it's lower, which is to say faster.

Snake is not augmented. Not like the Chief.



BMaker11 said:
Khuutra said:
Snake wins.

Even given Khuutra's "face to face" situation, one second Chief could be looking Snake in the eye, and the next second, Snake is gone. Chief wouldn't be able to find him, and Snake would just crunk his neck.

And, as shown by that video of when Snake first meets Big Mama, you can't just run up on Snake with a gun, even if you have multiple people.

So both scenarios, straight up fight or looking eye to eye, results in Chief getting destroyed by Snake. And I mean, worst come to worst, Snake will throw an EMP, short circuit Chief's suit, and then just slap him around a little bit, before pulling his M1911 and blowing Chief's head away.

This is silly. Snake is a bad man, but he's not even in the same league as the Chief, neither in terms of hand-to-hand combat skills no in terms of physical ability. The Chief's reaction time alone is more than twice as fast as the absolute fastest non-augmented human. Chief would tear Snake to pieces. There's no way around it.

Question:

When has Chief ever shown to be proficient in hand to hand combat?

His entire life of training as detailed in all the books.

When has Chief been shown to have super physical ability (other than jumping a billion feet in the air on low gravity planets)?

His body enhancements that lets him toss a 22 ton tank (44,000 pounds) in the air, in all games.

When has his reaction time been shown to be any higher than a normal human?

His body enhancements improved reflexes and reaction time 10 fold, as detailed in the books.

And you say "non-augmented" human? Who do you think Snake is? If Snake hears an ant move, he'll know precisely where it's at and have the barrel of a gun pointed directly on top of it....all in an instant

And MC would do that even faster considering his greater enhancements.

Apparently you people know nothing of the Halo storyline.



nightsurge said:
V-r0cK said:
IMO Snake would win. Snake always fights against these odd-abnormal-beyond human villains and still manages to find a way to defeat them. Master Chief is no different to some of the villains =P

If you are considering Snake to be normal, then Master Chief is no different.  He is basically a Snake that has been enhanced and improved even more.  Plus, Master Chief faces thousands of enemies with vastly superior technology in all terrains and still wins, not 50-100 human soldiers in a city environment with plenty of cover spaces.

MC wins.  Keep your arguments coming, Snake fans.  I'll shoot them down all day with the MC's greatness!

LOL too funny you can say what you want but what you cant shoot down are people's opinions! Take that! lolll funny how you claim these are arguments when its all just people's own opinions. Thats why on my post it says IMO.

Ridiculous lol but i guess you're not from America and wouldnt understand what opinions mean.

 



V-r0cK said:
nightsurge said:
V-r0cK said:
IMO Snake would win. Snake always fights against these odd-abnormal-beyond human villains and still manages to find a way to defeat them. Master Chief is no different to some of the villains =P

If you are considering Snake to be normal, then Master Chief is no different.  He is basically a Snake that has been enhanced and improved even more.  Plus, Master Chief faces thousands of enemies with vastly superior technology in all terrains and still wins, not 50-100 human soldiers in a city environment with plenty of cover spaces.

MC wins.  Keep your arguments coming, Snake fans.  I'll shoot them down all day with the MC's greatness!

LOL too funny you can say what you want but what you cant shoot down are people's opinions! Take that! lolll funny how you claim these are arguments when its all just people's own opinions. Thats why on my post it says IMO.

Ridiculous lol but i guess you're not from America and wouldnt understand what opinions mean.

 

So you're saying you don't have an argument to make.

Opinion doesn't carry you very far when it is unsubstantiated.