well i don't know about that! If a 5 is average which on a scale of 10 it is then seven would mean a pretty good game. not excellent but good. goddog, you think edge is still scoring high then what is an excellent game to you. I don't think one can exist

super mario brothers 3. but then that is the gold standard I hold all games too 2-d or 3.   and its still only a 9 or so rate an average game a 5 ..... 

still id prefer no points system 

goddog, i agree that a review with out final scores or points and you take it how you want is a much more balanced way of reviewing and i would welcome it. I just wonder whether the industry would, there seems to be to many people making a living out of these numbers

That would probably be best. That way people won't attack writers based on what they score it and maybe even writers/reviewers who won't attack a group of fans in their articles and/or game reviews.

Reviews should do nothing more than give information about a game, whether it be good or bad and then let the consumers decide for themselves whether or not it worth a purchase to him/her.

It is just so sad that gaming is coming down to this.

Maybe it has been like this all along, I don't know. Only been checking out gaming sites since right after the 360 launched.

Has it ever been this bad before? Meaning with fans and journalists?

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I don't think it has but then the Internet has never been so accessible.

*sigh*

Stupid internet. -.-

A problem we face with videogame journalism, is that the mix of competence as a journalist, plus knowledge of the industry, results in something that is hard to find.  You will find entertainment journalism with Variety Magazine, but maybe not product knowledge.  Go on a forum like this, and you have a lot of experts on videogames, who have a clear lack of how to do journalism.  It is all passion in the gut, and free work done, out of passion.  It is not professional.

And people now claim Microsoft or whomever is PAYING people to actually write bad things about Sony, as if an AllIWantforXmasIsAPSP.com approach is effective.

Anyhow, consider XPlay has been run through the ringer on here, I give you Adam Sessler's Soapbox on the entire KZ2 flamewar going on:

http://g4tv.com/thepile/videos/36553/Sesslers-Soapbox-Killzone-Mailbag.html

Someone actually wrote them asking if Microsoft paid them to give them to give KZ2 a 5/5 rating.

Because he's one of those anti-PS3/SONY fanboys of course.  :P

And you have to be logical here.  The larger userbase you have, you more fanboys you'll get.  The problem here is that those fanboys will not acknowledge it because they are blinded by... fanboyism...

:)

Makes me miss the days before I discovered the internet.

Only hype I would have to go on was that I read in my monthly GamePro. Gaming really went downhill for me once I discovered the internet and all its silly inhabitants.

Of course I mentioned about the insecurities of fanboys on the internet.  This past X-mas, I came across an old 1991 issue of GamePro mag I bought when I was in college stored in a box at my mom's.  Reading it takes me back to when it was just about the games, and all consoles were treated relatively equally and professionally.  Now, I'm glad market has grown, but the down side that with growth, you get more garbage.  And sadly, anger goes a long way.  The anger of the fanboys are heard more, because they are the ones throwing the first stone.  No one has to justify what they like, but when the fanboys come knocking, you feel forced to defend yourself because you need to protect your turf.  My turf is gaming, plain and simple.