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Well a few months back I posted a thread about Killzone and where the helghast and overall mood and them came from. No one really payed attention to it, however with Killzone looming around the corner and everyone talking there heads off I thought now would be a good time to bring it up again and spread it about.

Many people would claim that they got it from the 1999 anime Jin-Roh. That is only half correct. Jin-Roh is only a small movie in a Huge saga of books, radio broadcasts, movies, and mangas known as the Kerberos Saga which dates back as far as 1987. In this Universe there is an alternate history where germany actually won the war. As the story takes place in Japan, you can't help but notice how everything is different then what you would expect. All technology is german based, from there guns to the cars being driven which are all german models. Anyway as you can expect it is gloomy as hell, and everyone is repressed. Lots of riots go on over a the Panzer cops, which are what the Helghast are based after.

I really wouldn't want to spoil anything for those who are interested, but if you're a lover of Killzone(personally i liked the first one a lot) or just want some info on the world that started it all then check out the Movies. 2 of them are Live action and one happens to be my favorite movie of all time, The Red Spectacles (1987). The other is Stray Dog (1991) and the Third being Jin-Roh (1999).  Well one is my favorite movie, I can't say I would recomend them. They're not for everybody, and I would catergorize them as a Mind-Fuck.  Jin-roh is the easiest to understand, so if anything watch that one, however the true story of the series lies on the other two. Remember there are books and manga as well, but they're hard to track down. Also the radio drama is not translated.



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THX for posting

I m not sure I will play KZ one day

but I may look for these movie ...

thx u again



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So KZs story is nothing else then a future WWII - what I thought. Good allies vs evil Germany ad nauseam. I'm so bored by this kind of story. You can be so creative in writting a videogame story, take a look at Starcraft. It is so upset to play everytime the smart US GI Joe, isn't it?.....meeh



 

 

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When the game designers created the Killzone universe, they looked at their planet and it's history for inspiration.

Germany felt as though it was under constant attack from the West before WWII, and they deeply resented the Treaty of Versailles. The way that Germany felt could be mirrored by the Helghast and there resentment toward other human colonies due to the way that they were being treated.

Germany got hit hard by the economic depression, it was also destyoed by WWI, other events such as the invasion of the Ruhr, hyperinflation, political uprisings from across the spectrum, the country was falling apart, and living standards were dropping fast. Helghan isn't exactly the nicest planet in the galaxy to live in.

Visari shows many parallels to Hitler in the way he gives speeches, his aims, and his way of leading. The speechs at the start of Killzone and Killzone 2 shows that the used similar styles of propaganda to Hitler.

The way the Helghast army present themselves is also incredibly similar to the way the German army did so. The German army often wore superlative uniforms and was overly-cautious about presentation and showing order.

So, yeah, I pretty much agree with your conclusion about the inspirations for Killzone.

Why, then does everybody have Helghast avatars and signatures? Well, because they look so damned awesome, is why.



Phobos said:
So KZs story is nothing else then a future WWII - what I thought. Good allies vs evil Germany ad nauseam. I'm so bored by this kind of story. You can be so creative in writting a videogame story, take a look at Starcraft. It is so upset to play everytime the smart US GI Joe, isn't it?.....meeh

 

Nah Killzone 2 didn't get the story from this series. However they pretty much stole the entire atmosphere and did a complete carbon copy of the Panzer Cops to make the helghast. The story itself is compeletly different.



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There's a lot more to the Helghast than TEH UBER BADASS METAL SUITS WITH TEH ORANGE EYEZ! Although they are awesome

The Helghast are definitely inspired by the Nazi Germans. Oppressed for many years, desperate to reclaim their former power, they will do anything.

Also, a little like Japan in WWII. They did a lot of bad things, but despite the fact that it was their enemies who launched the massive attacks (the nuclear bombs, the ISA invasion), they are considered the bad guys.

Guerilla took a lot of information from past civilisations and applied it. If you plan on getting Killzone 2, read this thread on the story so far:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=56896

It's from Killzone.com, just all put conveniently into one page.



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lol I have played both Killzone, and Liberation. Also read the backstory. Honestly though, do you think that the entire atmosphere, nazi similarity, look of the world, and look of the helghast that none of the developers had ever heard of the series. That's like me rewriting the words to sweet home alabama with same exact music and claiming it my own.

The story is completely there own however their look and everything else was inspired from this saga. I wish i had my OPM magazine from 2003 with a direct qoute of them saying they got a lot of theirideas from the Jin-Roh movies.



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They were definitely inspired by Jin-Roh, but he wasn't the only one with orange eyes, you know?

And like you said, the story was theirs and theirs alone, although it did get some inspiration from past events.



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Kantor said:
There's a lot more to the Helghast than TEH UBER BADASS METAL SUITS WITH TEH ORANGE EYEZ! Although they are awesome

The Helghast are definitely inspired by the Nazi Germans. Oppressed for many years, desperate to reclaim their former power, they will do anything.

Also, a little like Japan in WWII. They did a lot of bad things, but despite the fact that it was their enemies who launched the massive attacks (the nuclear bombs, the ISA invasion), they are considered the bad guys.

Guerilla took a lot of information from past civilisations and applied it. If you plan on getting Killzone 2, read this thread on the story so far:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=56896

It's from Killzone.com, just all put conveniently into one page.

ya a little bit too long for me to read tho

 



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Phobos said:
So KZs story is nothing else then a future WWII - what I thought. Good allies vs evil Germany ad nauseam. I'm so bored by this kind of story. You can be so creative in writting a videogame story, take a look at Starcraft. It is so upset to play everytime the smart US GI Joe, isn't it?.....meeh

 

 Starcraft ???

u mean the one that was completely ripped from the Warhammer 40k universe (GW) ???

This starcraft ?

...



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