Sony still doesn’t see Nintendo as a competitor, but admits that they’ve learned from the company

“It’s difficult to talk about Nintendo, because we don’t look at their console as a competitor. We’ve learned from Nintendo how to grow the market and move from handheld device to device - they’ve done it brilliantly. And we’ve learned an enormous amount from Microsoft, too. Overall, the market has sharpened up individual competitors to do better - we should celebrate the industry and how we’ve collectively grown it beyond all recognition.” - Sony Europe President, David Reeves

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this is why they will fail and end up in thrid palce.....if you have no comp there is not reason to push yourself ot better levels

Still talking gibberish i see. Sony must face the fact that they are rivalling Nintendo just as much, if not more, than MS, have been like this since PS came out and will continue to do so in the future.

As long as both of those companies make similar machines for the same purpose it will always be like that.

and careful guys, a mod said he will ban people is they say thing like "So much for the idea that the Xbox and PS3 aren't in competition with Nintendo."

People this is about the nicest thing you will get from David Reeves! I have to give him +1 respect.....because I think it killed him inside saying this.

Well atlease Sony admits there learning things from Microsoft and Nintendo. But really Nintendo isn't Sony's competition it's Microsoft. Nintendo covers a different userbase (mostly casual gamers) and the HD consoles covers mostly the hardcore gamers, also the Wii is selling like hot cakes, the PS3 will not catch up to it.....for atlease the next couple years.

What is there for Sony to even compete with?

Wii vs PS3 is NOT competitive no matter what anyone says.

I was joking, although it does get really annoying.

Just like the telegraph companies weren't competing with the telephone, which was only bought by rich people who needed to communicate with their servants house.

Saying that the PS3 is not competing with the Wii is retarded. Of the 120+ million that the PS2 sold, you are telling me that all of them were 'hardcore'. From the start of the last generation to three years and three months in the total sales loo to be about 89 million (63 million ps2-they started generation early, 13-14 million xbox/gc ea). In roughly the same period it seems about 92 million have been sold this generation, albeit this generation started slowly during the 360's year head start. Hardware sales did pick up pace tremendously. Either many of the people who bought PS2 were casual and went with Wii or many of the hardcore just stopped playing and the Wii found completely new audiences. I obviously think it's a little bit of both.

I understand that Wii has been bringing non-gamers in, but I just don't understand how when you have a large gaming base from last generation, how you could disregard that some of those gamers last generation didn't switch console and conclude that it is only possible that they went to Microsoft and that the Wii only found these new audiences.

I didn't know there was a huge attrition from gaming between generations. (Of course people get older not as much time etc...but then wouldn't that make it necessary to 'compete' for the next generation of gamers?)