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If they lower the price everywhere outside of Japan. they'll loose money right?
So it sounds like a good move for them to protect themselves for the recession.



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Interesting to see how Nintendo deal with the "Wii Music-gate" It's a communication problem (aka: don't show a product like that on a show like the E3)



exindguy said:
student said:
Lurker said:
They need to be careful with the price of DSi. A high price can screw over a brand no matter how big it is.

Hrmm adding new techie features not related to gaming, upping the costs... sounds like PS3 :).

I think this is an interesting point(s): would it have made more sense for Nintendo to have refreshed the hardware with newer screens and nixed all the other, ancillary, features (saving them for a DS2, instead)? Hindsight being 20/20 (in light of the economic downturn/strength of the yen), perhaps they would have.

 

No, the DSi follows the blue ocean strategy precisely(the strategy they've been following from the beginning). It is the device that pulls in customers in markets entirely distant, hence it is as much a tool as a games device.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
So even Nintendo is not recession proof. They just prepared for it a hell of a lot better than others did.

The problem was Japan according to this report.  That being the case, it's not so much the global recession we're familiar with talking about but Japan's own recession (which they've been in for a few years now) and their market trend away from consoles and towards portables.

 



The rEVOLution is not being televised

Viper1 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
So even Nintendo is not recession proof. They just prepared for it a hell of a lot better than others did.

The problem was Japan according to this report.  That being the case, it's not so much the global recession we're familiar with talking about but Japan's own recession (which they've been in for a few years now) and their market trend away from consoles and towards portables.

 

 

 

1. What does Nintendo being affect by the recession have to do with where the problem lies?

2. Where did I write it was the global recession in my comment? It's still a recession.



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exindguy said:
student said:
Lurker said:
They need to be careful with the price of DSi. A high price can screw over a brand no matter how big it is.

Hrmm adding new techie features not related to gaming, upping the costs... sounds like PS3 :).

I think this is an interesting point(s): would it have made more sense for Nintendo to have refreshed the hardware with newer screens and nixed all the other, ancillary, features (saving them for a DS2, instead)? Hindsight being 20/20 (in light of the economic downturn/strength of the yen), perhaps they would have.

 

I think in that context it would have been wisest to not release it at all, but it remains to be seen exactly how well it will change in Europe and North America, so we can't say destinctively whether it will be a mistake. Certainly upping a products price in this atmosphere makes no sense, but this industry has bucked all "conventional wisdom" before. Providing a whole new console would have made a mess for developers, and would simply have to have been even more expensive, divided the market, and stunted the DS's growth

 

And i think the "communication" issue with Wii Music isn't necessarily that they showed it to the wrong venue (though they most certainly did), but that they pitched it wrong. If they had pitched it as the successor to Mario Paint MIDI Maker, then the core would've loved it. If they had really pitched your ability to remix everything so completely, the expanded audience would've loved it. Instead they initially pitched it as what amounted to a fischer-price game. They hid the game's depth behind a childish facade, and it showed, time and again.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
Viper1 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
So even Nintendo is not recession proof. They just prepared for it a hell of a lot better than others did.

he problem was Japan according to this report.  That being the case, it's not so much the global recession we're familiar with talking about but Japan's own recession (which they've been in for a few years now) and their market trend away from consoles and towards portables.

 

 

 

1. What does Nintendo being affect by the recession have to do with where the problem lies?

2. Where did I write it was the global recession in my comment? It's still a recession.

Just providing context. The statement you made would lead people to believe they were affected by THE recession - as in global - , not just Japan's ongoing for the past decade recession. The Wii has never known Japan without the recession so to say the recession (even Japan's) was the cause for the decrease is invalid.



The rEVOLution is not being televised

So DSi might be pushing $200 because of the strong Yen, I think. The old rumor was $180, which sounds about right.

I wonder if Nintendo will make a move to restore their margins on Wii hardware, and how the strong Yen will affect Wii Motion + pricing and other decisions.

If a new Wiimote with Motion + built in would be too much of a price jump to compensate for the Yen, they might just price the Motion + standalone higher, and not make a new remote... And if their margins are too low on Wii, they could consider a big software bundle of some sort, so they could raise the price.



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

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Atleast they aren't stupid.

Nintendo need all the money they can get so we can enjoy all the great games they make.

Hell Ninteno are the only ones I would buy a game from it was priced at 100$



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Viper1 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Viper1 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
So even Nintendo is not recession proof. They just prepared for it a hell of a lot better than others did.

he problem was Japan according to this report.  That being the case, it's not so much the global recession we're familiar with talking about but Japan's own recession (which they've been in for a few years now) and their market trend away from consoles and towards portables.

 

 

 

1. What does Nintendo being affect by the recession have to do with where the problem lies?

2. Where did I write it was the global recession in my comment? It's still a recession.

Just providing context. The statement you made would lead people to believe they were affected by THE recession - as in global - , not just Japan's ongoing for the past decade recession. The Wii has never known Japan without the recession so to say the recession (even Japan's) was the cause for the decrease is invalid.

 

If you were clarifying it for others, you should have stated so at first.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs