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@ usul Quote"
A lot people are not very satisfied with the Wii (not what they thought it was), so we'll see..."

What the hell r you talking about, you really need to stop looking at what people say on the internet and check out real life, every family i know who owns a Wii absolutely loves it, but don't count on my word on it, check out the main stream press who are always reporting on how its the family console. It is obvious the Wii is not your console of choice but you really need to try to keep to more constructive arguments, this one fails.

It was based on personal experience, talking about family (childen basically as older adults don't enjoy videogames for more than 15 minutes) and friends. None of them is really impressed by the Wii, neither I am. Not everybody thinks the Wii is fantastic outside Nintendo forums.

 



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I'm not too concerned. Nintendo seems to be at its best when everybody is predicting its failure. This is business as usual.



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Usul said:
@ usul Quote"
A lot people are not very satisfied with the Wii (not what they thought it was), so we'll see..."

What the hell r you talking about, you really need to stop looking at what people say on the internet and check out real life, every family i know who owns a Wii absolutely loves it, but don't count on my word on it, check out the main stream press who are always reporting on how its the family console. It is obvious the Wii is not your console of choice but you really need to try to keep to more constructive arguments, this one fails.

It was based on personal experience, talking about family (childen basically as older adults don't enjoy videogames for more than 15 minutes) and friends. None of them is really impressed by the Wii, neither I am. Not everybody thinks the Wii is fantastic outside Nintendo forums.

Anecdotal.

Are these people buying games? The average Wii owner is buying just as many games as the PS360 crowd.

Also, are they playing the Wii? Have you looked at the average hours put down on Animal Crossing Wii?

From this link:

Animal Crossing: City Folk (Released November 2008)
Current Rank: #9 Last Month’s Rank: #14

Raw data for “Animal Crossing: City Folk” usage

Average time played per player:
As of 1/1: 24 hours, 59 minutes (up 577 minutes)
As of 12/1: 15 hours, 22 minutes

Average number of sessions per player:
As of 1/1: 9.91 sessions (up 4.61 sessions )
As of 12/1: 5.3 sessions

 

Yeah, an average of 10 extra hours in Dec alone, seems like they're not enjoying it, huh?

The people around you don't represent the entire world. There are people out there who are disastified with the PS3/360, too. I can say the same thing - not everybody thinks the PS360 is fantastic outside of internet forums.


OT: I think this assumption is silly. The core buying GTA is more "loyal" than the Wii users? I'd like to see some proof of that. If anything, the Wii being the family system will keep it chugging along. The PS3/360 are more for the guys, usually means the mom/wife aren't playing it - and often the guys need their approval.



Asriel said:
The reasoning behind this is simple-Wii appeals more to 'casuals', who by definition, will not spend as much time or money involved in gaming when compared to the core, who so far, have been the main market of the HD console.(that's the article's reasoning, not my own reasoning, but I do closely agree with it)

Nintendo will announce big core titles to combat this, thusly driving profit, software sales and maintaing high hardware sales. That's what I think, anyhoo.

The problem is... the simplist reasoning isn't always the best.

I mean look at it from this angle.

Casual gamers buy less games per person right?

So who's more likely to need to cut down on their games budget?

The guy buying 1 game every 2 months?

Or the guy buying 2-3 games every month?

The "hardcore" gamer is more likely to be the one needing to make the gaming "sacrifice" and go back and do some retro gaming.

That combined with just a higher pricepoint in general... with Wii games often not even coming out at 50 dollars...

During a recession entertainment spending by a person usually doesn't go down unless it's excessive spending.



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TWRoO said:
goddog said:
TheSource said:

The recession already hit the PS3 first...

 

Im sorry, but this is clearly more a case of price point saturation. combined with training customers to anticipate a yearly price drop. the recession may be slowing it more then it already was hindered but those two points are by far the leaders of the pack in stymieing PS3 sales 

But.... Crazzyman told us all the PS3 was in CRISIS!

 

Of what?  Selling too many systems?

 



Usul said:
@ usul Quote"
A lot people are not very satisfied with the Wii (not what they thought it was), so we'll see..."

What the hell r you talking about, you really need to stop looking at what people say on the internet and check out real life, every family i know who owns a Wii absolutely loves it, but don't count on my word on it, check out the main stream press who are always reporting on how its the family console. It is obvious the Wii is not your console of choice but you really need to try to keep to more constructive arguments, this one fails.

It was based on personal experience, talking about family (childen basically as older adults don't enjoy videogames for more than 15 minutes) and friends. None of them is really impressed by the Wii, neither I am. Not everybody thinks the Wii is fantastic outside Nintendo forums.

 

That was actually a very weak reply. No where did i mention that everyone has to likes the Wii, if anything i  i said it obviously is not your console of choice, what i find rather pathetic is the fact that guys like you can not look past your own interest thus lumbast anything that is not catered to you, you refuse to acknowledge or even mention the fact that if anything the satisfaction of the wii user base far outsrips the unsatified few, the charts don't lie, people do not buy the wii because its the Hype machine or because its low in stock (More bullshit FUD by the haters), they like it because it is fun and has content they enjoy, not everyone one likes Gears of war or MGS4, and it seems that is a concept you fail to grasp, and its not because you are dumb or anything, it's because you are in such denial it affecting your reality of things

My only advice is, if something that is supposed be a hobby or entertainment effects you so emotionally it affects your perception of reality, and has you covering your  eyes screaming "people who own the wii are unsatified" , then you have serious problems, and perhaps you should ease up on the hobby a little bit and try other things (just a suggesting). I have all consoles this gen, and i can say i am very satisfied with all of them especially the Wii (manyhours of family entertainment) and it actually gets more use in my household.

 



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BornFirst. said:
Usul said:
@ usul Quote"
A lot people are not very satisfied with the Wii (not what they thought it was), so we'll see..."

What the hell r you talking about, you really need to stop looking at what people say on the internet and check out real life, every family i know who owns a Wii absolutely loves it, but don't count on my word on it, check out the main stream press who are always reporting on how its the family console. It is obvious the Wii is not your console of choice but you really need to try to keep to more constructive arguments, this one fails.

It was based on personal experience, talking about family (childen basically as older adults don't enjoy videogames for more than 15 minutes) and friends. None of them is really impressed by the Wii, neither I am. Not everybody thinks the Wii is fantastic outside Nintendo forums.

 

That was actually a very weak reply. No where did i mention that everyone has to likes the Wii, if anything i  i said it obviously is not your console of choice, what i find rather pathetic is the fact that guys like you can not look past your own interest thus lumbast anything that is not catered to you, you refuse to acknowledge or even mention the fact that if anything the satisfaction of the wii user base far outsrips the unsatified few, the charts don't lie, people do not buy the wii because its the Hype machine or because its low in stock (More bullshit FUD by the haters), they like it because it is fun and has content they enjoy, not everyone one likes Gears of war or MGS4, and it seems that is a concept you fail to grasp, and its not because you are dumb or anything, it's because you are in such denial it affecting your reality of things

My only advice is, if something that is supposed be a hobby or entertainment effects you so emotionally it affects your perception of reality, and has you covering your  eyes screaming "people who own the wii are unsatified" , then you have serious problems, and perhaps you should ease up on the hobby a little bit and try other things (just a suggesting). I have all consoles this gen, and i can say i am very satisfied with all of them especially the Wii (manyhours of family entertainment) and it actually gets more use in my household.

 

First all, I only said that some Nintendo fans seem to be blinded and think everybody enjoys the Wii. There is people who buy it an are not impressed at all, buy it and don't use it a lot later... Only talking about people around me (of all ages). I don't see what's so incorrect in saying this. I also was saying, as reference to that review that Nintendo are getting a dit disrespectfull with some purchasers by releasing games that are practically identical to last gen ones (not only the graphics). And was not saying anything about PS360, only making some criticisms on Nintendo.

Then the answer was out of place and your tone was rude. What was the reason in insulting me... Your assumption was wrong, and you FREAK sure don't know me. But after reading that answer I realize you're a FANATIC. Who is the one having serious problems? You're the one affected emotionally by your hobby.

 



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Kasz216 said:
Asriel said:
The reasoning behind this is simple-Wii appeals more to 'casuals', who by definition, will not spend as much time or money involved in gaming when compared to the core, who so far, have been the main market of the HD console.(that's the article's reasoning, not my own reasoning, but I do closely agree with it)

Nintendo will announce big core titles to combat this, thusly driving profit, software sales and maintaing high hardware sales. That's what I think, anyhoo.

The problem is... the simplist reasoning isn't always the best.

I mean look at it from this angle.

Casual gamers buy less games per person right?

So who's more likely to need to cut down on their games budget?

The guy buying 1 game every 2 months?

Or the guy buying 2-3 games every month?

The "hardcore" gamer is more likely to be the one needing to make the gaming "sacrifice" and go back and do some retro gaming.

That combined with just a higher pricepoint in general... with Wii games often not even coming out at 50 dollars...

During a recession entertainment spending by a person usually doesn't go down unless it's excessive spending.

While your arguments make sense at first it actually misses the mark a bit. Neither of those two guys are only spending money on games, and the guy buying 2-3 games a month is more likely to continue buying 2-3 games a month and cut out other passtimes that he doesn't enjoy as much than a guy who enjoys other things more than gaming is likely to keep buying games. When it comes down to it, you don't cut spending on the things you enjoy most first.

However the thing is there are plenty of Wii owners that enjoy gaming as a top tier activity, and that is what most of those decrying it don't want to admit.



sanadawarrior said:
Kasz216 said:
Asriel said:
The reasoning behind this is simple-Wii appeals more to 'casuals', who by definition, will not spend as much time or money involved in gaming when compared to the core, who so far, have been the main market of the HD console.(that's the article's reasoning, not my own reasoning, but I do closely agree with it)

Nintendo will announce big core titles to combat this, thusly driving profit, software sales and maintaing high hardware sales. That's what I think, anyhoo.

The problem is... the simplist reasoning isn't always the best.

I mean look at it from this angle.

Casual gamers buy less games per person right?

So who's more likely to need to cut down on their games budget?

The guy buying 1 game every 2 months?

Or the guy buying 2-3 games every month?

The "hardcore" gamer is more likely to be the one needing to make the gaming "sacrifice" and go back and do some retro gaming.

That combined with just a higher pricepoint in general... with Wii games often not even coming out at 50 dollars...

During a recession entertainment spending by a person usually doesn't go down unless it's excessive spending.

While your arguments make sense at first it actually misses the mark a bit. Neither of those two guys are only spending money on games, and the guy buying 2-3 games a month is more likely to continue buying 2-3 games a month and cut out other passtimes that he doesn't enjoy as much than a guy who enjoys other things more than gaming is likely to keep buying games. When it comes down to it, you don't cut spending on the things you enjoy most first.

However the thing is there are plenty of Wii owners that enjoy gaming as a top tier activity, and that is what most of those decrying it don't want to admit.

See i disagree with this because the person who buys 2-3 games a month usually doesn't spend much money on anything else... because they are hadrcore gamers.

I mean 2-3 games a month is a lot.

For example my gaming budget is seeing a cut because that's basically all I spend my money on as it is my main hobby.

I mean which hurts less... cutting down on one hobby or completly eliminating one that gives you variety in what you do?