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Pristine20 on 30 January 2009

Wow, I wonder where all those "demo" psp units are.

I think sony might have modded some psps and sold them on ebay themselves lol



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WarhawkRules on 07 February 2009

Vgchartz undertracked Sony consoles A LOT


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles



koffieboon on 07 February 2009
WarhawkRules said:
Vgchartz undertracked Sony consoles A LOT


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles

 

Some of those numbers are simply not correct, wikipedia is far from perfect.

For everyone who says PSP numbers are undertracked, please tell in which areas this happens?

- Cause it can't be in Japan, since we have Media Create/Famitsu numbers there which are about equal to ours

- It can't be in the Americas, cause NPD US + Canada puts PSP at around 15.2 million. So that already leaves 600-700k units for Mexico + Latin America. Do people really think this number should be a higher?

- That leaves only Others as a possible area for errors. But we know the UK number is in line with Charttrack. The French number is only 200k lower than Gfk, might be reason for a small adjustment but nowhere near an explanation for a gap of millions of units. The Italian number is also in line with Gfk, as is the number for Australia. So where are all those millions of extra PSPs sold then? Spain? Our numbers show it sold around 1.4 million units in the last 2 years, while Adese recently reported it sold around 500k last year (which was a 28% decline from the year before, which puts 2007 at around 700k). So for the last 2 years we might be too high, certainly not too low. So that only leaves Germany, Scandinavia, Other Europe and Others. Fact is the different shipment types used by Sony creates a mess as far as LTD numbers go, especially considering they never provided a clear LTD number in the financial reports.



WarhawkRules on 07 February 2009
koffieboon said:
WarhawkRules said:
Vgchartz undertracked Sony consoles A LOT


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles

 

Some of those numbers are simply not correct, wikipedia is far from perfect.

For everyone who says PSP numbers are undertracked, please tell in which areas this happens?

- Cause it can't be in Japan, since we have Media Create/Famitsu numbers there which are about equal to ours

- It can't be in the Americas, cause NPD US + Canada puts PSP at around 15.2 million. So that already leaves 600-700k units for Mexico + Latin America. Do people really think this number should be a higher?

- That leaves only Others as a possible area for errors. But we know the UK number is in line with Charttrack. The French number is only 200k lower than Gfk, might be reason for a small adjustment but nowhere near an explanation for a gap of millions of units. The Italian number is also in line with Gfk, as is the number for Australia. So where are all those millions of extra PSPs sold then? Spain? Our numbers show it sold around 1.4 million units in the last 2 years, while Adese recently reported it sold around 500k last year (which was a 28% decline from the year before, which puts 2007 at around 700k). So for the last 2 years we might be too high, certainly not too low. So that only leaves Germany, Scandinavia, Other Europe and Others. Fact is the different shipment types used by Sony creates a mess as far as LTD numbers go, especially considering they never provided a clear LTD number in the financial reports.

 

 

I choose to believe the world's best encyklopedia. Wikipedia is  not perfect but its still more correct than VGchartz. And PSP is also selling in Asia, you know? Its also selling in east Europe.



nordlead on 07 February 2009
WarhawkRules said:
koffieboon said:
WarhawkRules said:
Vgchartz undertracked Sony consoles A LOT


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles

 

Some of those numbers are simply not correct, wikipedia is far from perfect.

For everyone who says PSP numbers are undertracked, please tell in which areas this happens?

- Cause it can't be in Japan, since we have Media Create/Famitsu numbers there which are about equal to ours

- It can't be in the Americas, cause NPD US + Canada puts PSP at around 15.2 million. So that already leaves 600-700k units for Mexico + Latin America. Do people really think this number should be a higher?

- That leaves only Others as a possible area for errors. But we know the UK number is in line with Charttrack. The French number is only 200k lower than Gfk, might be reason for a small adjustment but nowhere near an explanation for a gap of millions of units. The Italian number is also in line with Gfk, as is the number for Australia. So where are all those millions of extra PSPs sold then? Spain? Our numbers show it sold around 1.4 million units in the last 2 years, while Adese recently reported it sold around 500k last year (which was a 28% decline from the year before, which puts 2007 at around 700k). So for the last 2 years we might be too high, certainly not too low. So that only leaves Germany, Scandinavia, Other Europe and Others. Fact is the different shipment types used by Sony creates a mess as far as LTD numbers go, especially considering they never provided a clear LTD number in the financial reports.

 

 

I choose to believe the world's best encyklopedia. Wikipedia is  not perfect but its still more correct than VGchartz. And PSP is also selling in Asia, you know? Its also selling in east Europe.

well, if you choose to believe my opinion on wikipedia, then you should choose to believe my opinion here.

Sony changed their reporting methods, and this has been brought up multiple times, but people obviously can't listen.

When they changed their reporting method people added a few million units TWICE, hence why wikipedia is wrong (per normal). Go do some real fact checking on the financial sheets, rather than the joke that wikipedia is. Make sure you read the part where they say they are changing their tracking method, then come back and argue if the sales are off.




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koffieboon on 07 February 2009
WarhawkRules said:
koffieboon said:
WarhawkRules said:
Vgchartz undertracked Sony consoles A LOT


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles

 

Some of those numbers are simply not correct, wikipedia is far from perfect.

For everyone who says PSP numbers are undertracked, please tell in which areas this happens?

- Cause it can't be in Japan, since we have Media Create/Famitsu numbers there which are about equal to ours

- It can't be in the Americas, cause NPD US + Canada puts PSP at around 15.2 million. So that already leaves 600-700k units for Mexico + Latin America. Do people really think this number should be a higher?

- That leaves only Others as a possible area for errors. But we know the UK number is in line with Charttrack. The French number is only 200k lower than Gfk, might be reason for a small adjustment but nowhere near an explanation for a gap of millions of units. The Italian number is also in line with Gfk, as is the number for Australia. So where are all those millions of extra PSPs sold then? Spain? Our numbers show it sold around 1.4 million units in the last 2 years, while Adese recently reported it sold around 500k last year (which was a 28% decline from the year before, which puts 2007 at around 700k). So for the last 2 years we might be too high, certainly not too low. So that only leaves Germany, Scandinavia, Other Europe and Others. Fact is the different shipment types used by Sony creates a mess as far as LTD numbers go, especially considering they never provided a clear LTD number in the financial reports.

 

 

I choose to believe the world's best encyklopedia. Wikipedia is  not perfect but its still more correct than VGchartz. And PSP is also selling in Asia, you know? Its also selling in east Europe.

The worlds best encyclopedia? According to who? Just check the sources for the PS2 and PSP numbers. Those aren't directing towards credible sources, they're linking towards some articles on the internet. For instance the 140M number for PS2 was already debunked months ago, and the 51 million for PSP is also a wrong number from adding up production shipments and shipments to retail.

Btw, those regions are taken account for in the Other Europe and Other groups within Others. So if you have specific information which shows these numbers must be higher you're welcome to provide them.