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aiden.cronus on 27 January 2009

@ Zen

that was an epic post!



why play b3yond?

Because I'm playing Wii-yond LOL ( i know--lame) :D



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Shadowblind on 27 January 2009
ZenfoldorVGI said:

Screw it.

You know what I think is a bad console?

The Playstation 3.

For the value, maybe, but its pretty damn good as a CONSOLE. Controller aside of course.

 

The first reason is simple. Sony, the company behind the machine, decided that the brand was strong enough that they would be able to saddle it with another, lesser brand from an unrelated arm of the company, and consumers would still buy it.

I'm not gonna argue with this because Sony allienated me with the BS they through at my beloved homebrew community and closing down Lik-Sang. Sony can rot for that.

 

They said, "Remember the PS2!? Well, now we have the playstation 3...except you have to buy this new thing we invented, Blu-Ray, if you want to buy one. It's 199 extra and completely needless. We're only adding it on because we know you wouldn't buy it otherwise, and we think that you will buy our console based on brand alone, regardless of price point."

Blu-Ray does add some nice space for more game content. While I do agree that it wasn't a neccesity, it did help them win the HD format war. I just hope they still think that winning Blu-Ray was worth the cost of they're Playstation brand.

Well, unfortunately we did buy it. Barely. Just enough to raise the BR brand, while the PS brand sunk, and sunk, and sunk.



In fact, all of the 3rd party franchises that use to be saddled to the Playstation brand, didn't have anymore room to ride, thanks to the monumental Blu-Ray blunder. They went multiplat.


On top of this horrible, terrible, affront to gamers, called Blu-Ray, Sony also had the nerve to release exactly 0 good exclusive games for the first year of the console, which was around 600 USD. The console blew chunks, then, worse than any console ever. It was the worst console on the market, ever. It sucked. The Wii blew it away. Yes, yes it did. Zelda and Galaxy destroyed the PS3 library, and the price was once again, much, much cheaper.

Now, two years after the horrible launch, the console is getting some good exclusives. However, it is still bundled with the useless BR player, and its back catalog of games is still hovering around the "shit" classification. Yet, it stubbornly remains at the 400 dollar plus 50 dollars sales tax pricepoint.

Now, I'm being asked to buy the console, immediately before an obvious pricecut, by Sony fanboys, who don't care about me and my value, but instead just about the extra sale...based solely on the promise that MGS4/LBP, 2 relatively niche games, are great, and the upcoming PS3 exclusives might be great as well.

LBP was a letdown for me. MGS4 demo was boring. Don't know about the full game though.

F that.

The console is past tense to me. Its greatness can never match the PS2, and it would take years to catch the Xbox 360, which itself already has a fantastic library, with multiplats that are better than their PS3 counterparts, at a price point of 199 USDollars, and which doesn't force me to buy, support, or have anything to do with a needless, pointless, and luxurious peripheral that I don't need, want, or understand.

Understand though that the PS2 was GODLY, especially to me. Oddly enough, my absolute undying love for it is getting familiar with the 360. But PS2 is still a few degrees above it. I do hate how the PS name has basically sold consoles at this point. Think if Neo-Geo released it with a different name. Wouldn't have sold passed 2 mil.

I think playing beyond, before the price cut, is ignorant. I think it has been ignorant since the system launched, and I think it will probably still be ignorant after the price cut as well. The people who have bought the console, imho, have been cheated, and overpaid for an inferior product. They have been made pawns of a marketing scheme, and bought an expensive item based on brand instead of quality and common sense.

For now, yes I have. I await my glorious God of War 3, however, and hopefully KH3.

Why didn't I play beyond?

Because I thought before.

This thread must be a f'n joke.

 

 



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NJ5 on 27 January 2009

Because there are very few interesting PS3 games that I can't already play on the 360. I have no interest in Blu-Ray so that's not a plus. To top it off, I don't like Sony anymore after some very shameful episodes of theirs.

The only thing I would buy a PS3 for would be to play with Cell programming on Linux (and then I would probably buy a few games). I'd only do that when it's cheaper though.

 



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Myviewing on 27 January 2009

Zenfolder does speak my mind for the most part, with the exception of one key thing. I don't think the Playstation 3 is a bad console, it's certainly better than the Virtual Boy and many other pathetic attempts by every measure. As said, there's one game I'd like and two coming out, but I don't find three games to be worthy of a purchase.

But it does have games that appeal to certain folks, those who worship Metal Gear, actually in all honesty like Lair, and were WOWED by Resistance when it first came out, and most big name titles are multi-plat this gen anyway. As a result, the PS3 has appeal for certain people, and it's not a bad system, it just appeals to different people.



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Signalstar on 27 January 2009

To people claiming they dont want a $400 console, you do know what the launch price of the 360 was dont you?



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GranTurismoHelperMax on 27 January 2009

Doesn't apply to me ownging the system, but having played a xbox 360 for a whole month after borrowing it from a friend, it seems to be a more complete gaming system vs the PS3 because it has games from all various genres where as the PS3 are still missing it's big heard titles. For example, the xbox 360 has halo, gears of war, fable, forza, etc., all the big name franchises for the 360 has been released. For the PS3, the other big games still have been released including the soon killzone 2, ff13, gran turismo 5, god of war 3, tekken 6, etc.

And BTW , I was at work at Target (sun jan, 25) helping a guest get their TV in the car and coincidence, they also bought a PS3. The 2 guys did say "we dont plan to buy any games for the ps3, we just bought it to play blu-ray movies since its a pretty good deal". So another example of jsut buying a ps3 for blu-ray. Just how many people think the ps3 is just a multimedia powerhouse rather then a real gaming system. Instead of playing movies, music, they gotta advertise the videos games rather than focusing on just blu-ray and blah blah blah.



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End of 2009 Predictions (made Jan 1, 2009): My predictions were pretty accurate, the 360 was over and the Wii was just under.

Wii: 65 mil (yea I'm crazy) 360: 35 mil (its getting there) PS3: 30 mil (the slim better do well)

End of 2010 Predictions (made Jan 7, 2010):

Wii: 81 mil  360: 47 mil PS3: 45 mil


numonex on 27 January 2009

When I think of PS3 exclusive games the first two games that come to my mind are Lair and Haze. MGS 4 and LBP the only AAA exclusive games are niche. Besides that what other worthwhile PS3 exclusive games justify its $400 price tag?

Upcoming PS3 exclusive games like GT 5 and Kill Zone 2? Well on XBox 360 there are plenty of racing games like Forza 2, soon Forza 3, PGR 3 and PGR 4. The XBox 360 is the shooter console with mega hits such as Gears of War 1 & 2, Halo 3.

XBox 360/PC are Microsoft exclusive. I do not care much for upgrading a PC every 2 years to play the latest games that are just as good on the XBox 360.

$200 price tag of PS3 in 3 or 4 years time but by then a $300 or $400 next Microsoft console would be far more appealing to me than a 6 or 7 year old PS3



halogamer1989 on 27 January 2009

I don't use Blu-ray and I don't like the PS3's offerings. 360 and PC will do just fine. Otherwise I'll stick to my old console collection (maybe a round of Burger Time or 2 )



mrstickball on 27 January 2009
Signalstar said:
To people claiming they dont want a $400 console, you do know what the launch price of the 360 was dont you?

How many X360 owners actually bought the console at $400 vs. PS3 owners that purchased their systems at $400, $500 or even $600?

I bought my X360 on launch day. I waited outside in 40*F weather with my brother.

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So we could buy 2, sell 1, and get 'our' 360 for a mere $150. I never have argued the $400 was a great pricepoint. MS did the smart thing by launching with the Core at $300 (a move Sony copied, BTW) for users that couldn't afford the insane pricetag.

Launching a system above $300 is just plain stupid. That's why MS got owned by the PS2 in 2005 and 2006. Why is it that the X360 has surged in sales once it reached a gasp! Reasonable price? Because common sense rules the day for some. Which is another reason why the Wii has decimated the competition. It's 'premium' model cost $250 to the 360's $400 and the PS3's $600. That's a huge friggin' gap, my friends.

 



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Gnizmo on 27 January 2009
Signalstar said:
To people claiming they dont want a $400 console, you do know what the launch price of the 360 was dont you?

 $200 less than the launch price of the PS3. Launch price is irrelevant when talking about buying a console. Current price is what is meaningful. When the PS3 comes down a few hundred I might buy one if there are enough games to justify it. Currently there is only one I really want to play.



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