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NinjaKido said:

 

When you say quality are you talking about "quality" are you reffering to high end graphics , quality writting , impressive soundtrack or simply how fun the game is to play ?

The prior can be compared more scientifcaly than the latter , if your basicaly trying to compare how fun 360 exclusives are in comparison to how enjoyable PS3 exclusives are then you've taken on a challenge I believe you won't succesfully be able to complete.

I'm just talking about seperating it the way you and Fumanchu suggested. If it can't be done correctly, which it looks like it can't, then I'd rather stick with the cold hard facts and leave the assumptions out. Assumptions are why this thread had to be made in the first place. No need to create new ones here.

 



Tag: Became a freaking mod and a complete douche, coincidentally, at the same time.



I have never heard this '360 has no exclusives' line that you talk of, well until now. I've always heard people just wanting the pc/360 games not to be considered exclusives, we all know 360 has a lot of good real exclusives.



NinjaKido said:
Onyxmeth said:
NinjaKido said:
Onyxmeth said:
Fumanchu said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Onyxmeth said:
Jo21 said:
last renmant is multiplatform.

If I give you $60 can you go to Target and buy me the PS3 or PC version? If not then it's exclusive. Exclusive means available on one platform right? That's what I heard. When Last Remnant no longer is exclusive, it will leave the list.

@Barozi

Can you get me a link on that? I heard SIREN had a retail disc for PAL territories. I'll switch it to the PSN list if it's not true. Destroy All Humans will be removed when another version comes out. Hour of Victory is coming off.

 

 

Perhaps you could mark temporary exclusives as such, then, since you're trying to create the illusion of being unbiased.

There is no 'illusion' here - he already stated that as these games become available on other systems they will be removed.

This is presenting the facts for 'right now'. 

Onyx another popular belief is that the PS3 has a 'better variety of exclusives' - could you arrange the lists by genre?

 

I don't think I can. I didn't want to make any assumptions when doing this, just criteria I obtain from other places. If I seperate into genres, I would only do it based on another site's criteria like IGN, not my own since it would be assuming where some should be placed.

@Ninja-What would be quality? Where would I stop on the Metacritic?

 

Quality is entirely in the eye of the beholder but if we want to lean towards objectivity we might say that some things are clearly more quality than others Jay Z vs Soulja Boy for example , but in truth there is no such thing as subjective.

I'd probably rely on metacritic purley because there isn't a better way of comparing quality , that's not to say that metacritic is a good method in the first place.

 

 

Yeah but where do I stop? 70? 60? 50? Quality on the Metacritic scale is 75 but there are a lot of gaming favorites below that. It looks to me that there isn't anything anybody has vouched for below 60. If I do this is that a good place to end?

 

 

When you say quality are you talking about "quality" are you reffering to high end graphics , quality writting , impressive soundtrack or simply how fun the game is to play ?

The prior can be compared more scientifcaly than the latter , if your basicaly trying to compare how fun 360 exclusives are in comparison to how enjoyable PS3 exclusives are then you've taken on a challenge I believe you won't succesfully be able to complete.

 

Here is were opinion comes in.



N64 is the ONLY console of the fifth generation!!!

Onyxmeth said:
NinjaKido said:

 

When you say quality are you talking about "quality" are you reffering to high end graphics , quality writting , impressive soundtrack or simply how fun the game is to play ?

The prior can be compared more scientifcaly than the latter , if your basicaly trying to compare how fun 360 exclusives are in comparison to how enjoyable PS3 exclusives are then you've taken on a challenge I believe you won't succesfully be able to complete.

I'm just talking about seperating it the way you and Fumanchu suggested. If it can't be done correctly, which it looks like it can't, then I'd rather stick with the cold hard facts and leave the assumptions out. Assumptions are why this thread had to be made in the first place. No need to create new ones here.

 

 

What your using isn't exactly factual and i'll explain why . Your using factual metacritic data which gives a collection of subjective reviews of a particular game ,  your use of the data is factual however the data itself isn't so factual.

It's like saying 90% of the people on my street said Halo 3 pwns the crap out Street Fighter 2 , whilst my data might be factual and indisputable the subjective nature of the data is highly open to criticism.



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jesus kung fu magic said:
NinjaKido said:
Onyxmeth said:
NinjaKido said:
Onyxmeth said:
Fumanchu said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Onyxmeth said:
Jo21 said:
last renmant is multiplatform.

If I give you $60 can you go to Target and buy me the PS3 or PC version? If not then it's exclusive. Exclusive means available on one platform right? That's what I heard. When Last Remnant no longer is exclusive, it will leave the list.

@Barozi

Can you get me a link on that? I heard SIREN had a retail disc for PAL territories. I'll switch it to the PSN list if it's not true. Destroy All Humans will be removed when another version comes out. Hour of Victory is coming off.

 

 

Perhaps you could mark temporary exclusives as such, then, since you're trying to create the illusion of being unbiased.

There is no 'illusion' here - he already stated that as these games become available on other systems they will be removed.

This is presenting the facts for 'right now'. 

Onyx another popular belief is that the PS3 has a 'better variety of exclusives' - could you arrange the lists by genre?

 

I don't think I can. I didn't want to make any assumptions when doing this, just criteria I obtain from other places. If I seperate into genres, I would only do it based on another site's criteria like IGN, not my own since it would be assuming where some should be placed.

@Ninja-What would be quality? Where would I stop on the Metacritic?

 

Quality is entirely in the eye of the beholder but if we want to lean towards objectivity we might say that some things are clearly more quality than others Jay Z vs Soulja Boy for example , but in truth there is no such thing as subjective.

I'd probably rely on metacritic purley because there isn't a better way of comparing quality , that's not to say that metacritic is a good method in the first place.

 

 

Yeah but where do I stop? 70? 60? 50? Quality on the Metacritic scale is 75 but there are a lot of gaming favorites below that. It looks to me that there isn't anything anybody has vouched for below 60. If I do this is that a good place to end?

 

 

When you say quality are you talking about "quality" are you reffering to high end graphics , quality writting , impressive soundtrack or simply how fun the game is to play ?

The prior can be compared more scientifcaly than the latter , if your basicaly trying to compare how fun 360 exclusives are in comparison to how enjoyable PS3 exclusives are then you've taken on a challenge I believe you won't succesfully be able to complete.

 

Here is were opinion comes in.

I shouldn't have said "believe" that gives the impression that I might think there's a possibility of me being wrong . In this situation the bolded is fact.



NinjaKido said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
NinjaKido said:
Onyxmeth said:
NinjaKido said:
Onyxmeth said:
Fumanchu said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Onyxmeth said:
Jo21 said:
last renmant is multiplatform.

If I give you $60 can you go to Target and buy me the PS3 or PC version? If not then it's exclusive. Exclusive means available on one platform right? That's what I heard. When Last Remnant no longer is exclusive, it will leave the list.

@Barozi

Can you get me a link on that? I heard SIREN had a retail disc for PAL territories. I'll switch it to the PSN list if it's not true. Destroy All Humans will be removed when another version comes out. Hour of Victory is coming off.

 

 

Perhaps you could mark temporary exclusives as such, then, since you're trying to create the illusion of being unbiased.

There is no 'illusion' here - he already stated that as these games become available on other systems they will be removed.

This is presenting the facts for 'right now'. 

Onyx another popular belief is that the PS3 has a 'better variety of exclusives' - could you arrange the lists by genre?

 

I don't think I can. I didn't want to make any assumptions when doing this, just criteria I obtain from other places. If I seperate into genres, I would only do it based on another site's criteria like IGN, not my own since it would be assuming where some should be placed.

@Ninja-What would be quality? Where would I stop on the Metacritic?

 

Quality is entirely in the eye of the beholder but if we want to lean towards objectivity we might say that some things are clearly more quality than others Jay Z vs Soulja Boy for example , but in truth there is no such thing as subjective.

I'd probably rely on metacritic purley because there isn't a better way of comparing quality , that's not to say that metacritic is a good method in the first place.

 

 

Yeah but where do I stop? 70? 60? 50? Quality on the Metacritic scale is 75 but there are a lot of gaming favorites below that. It looks to me that there isn't anything anybody has vouched for below 60. If I do this is that a good place to end?

 

 

When you say quality are you talking about "quality" are you reffering to high end graphics , quality writting , impressive soundtrack or simply how fun the game is to play ?

The prior can be compared more scientifcaly than the latter , if your basicaly trying to compare how fun 360 exclusives are in comparison to how enjoyable PS3 exclusives are then you've taken on a challenge I believe you won't succesfully be able to complete.

 

Here is were opinion comes in.

I shouldn't have said "believe" that gives the impression that I might think there's a possibility of me being wrong . In this situation the bolded is fact.

 

Any here is where fanboyism comes in.



N64 is the ONLY console of the fifth generation!!!

@Onyxmeth

can you remake the list showing exclusive after November 2006 because a year head start is responsible for many of the 360's exclusives. I never made the claim you're trying to discredit, I'll just like to know.



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NinjaKido said:
Onyxmeth said:
NinjaKido said:

 

When you say quality are you talking about "quality" are you reffering to high end graphics , quality writting , impressive soundtrack or simply how fun the game is to play ?

The prior can be compared more scientifcaly than the latter , if your basicaly trying to compare how fun 360 exclusives are in comparison to how enjoyable PS3 exclusives are then you've taken on a challenge I believe you won't succesfully be able to complete.

I'm just talking about seperating it the way you and Fumanchu suggested. If it can't be done correctly, which it looks like it can't, then I'd rather stick with the cold hard facts and leave the assumptions out. Assumptions are why this thread had to be made in the first place. No need to create new ones here.

 

 

What your using isn't exactly factual and i'll explain why . Your using factual metacritic data which gives a collection of subjective reviews of a particular game ,  your use of the data is factual however the data itself isn't so factual.

It's like saying 90% of the people on my street said Halo 3 pwns the crap out Street Fighter 2 , whilst my data might be factual and indisputable the subjective nature of the data is highly open to criticism.

All I meant by what I said is exactly what you clarified. I don't really believe in Metacritic much. It's merely a metric I used to seperate quality generically because it's a very popular metric to use and many people here trust it enough to be acceptable. Otherwise I would have just made two long lists and said "Here you go" and every naysayer would have said, "but the PS3 games are rated higher! The 360 stuff is all shovelware!" and at that point I would have had to use Metacritic to shut everyone up. Basically it was to cut them off at the pass.

 



Tag: Became a freaking mod and a complete douche, coincidentally, at the same time.



jesus kung fu magic said:
NinjaKido said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
NinjaKido said:
Onyxmeth said:
NinjaKido said:
Onyxmeth said:
Fumanchu said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Onyxmeth said:
Jo21 said:
last renmant is multiplatform.

If I give you $60 can you go to Target and buy me the PS3 or PC version? If not then it's exclusive. Exclusive means available on one platform right? That's what I heard. When Last Remnant no longer is exclusive, it will leave the list.

@Barozi

Can you get me a link on that? I heard SIREN had a retail disc for PAL territories. I'll switch it to the PSN list if it's not true. Destroy All Humans will be removed when another version comes out. Hour of Victory is coming off.

 

 

Perhaps you could mark temporary exclusives as such, then, since you're trying to create the illusion of being unbiased.

There is no 'illusion' here - he already stated that as these games become available on other systems they will be removed.

This is presenting the facts for 'right now'. 

Onyx another popular belief is that the PS3 has a 'better variety of exclusives' - could you arrange the lists by genre?

 

I don't think I can. I didn't want to make any assumptions when doing this, just criteria I obtain from other places. If I seperate into genres, I would only do it based on another site's criteria like IGN, not my own since it would be assuming where some should be placed.

@Ninja-What would be quality? Where would I stop on the Metacritic?

 

Quality is entirely in the eye of the beholder but if we want to lean towards objectivity we might say that some things are clearly more quality than others Jay Z vs Soulja Boy for example , but in truth there is no such thing as subjective.

I'd probably rely on metacritic purley because there isn't a better way of comparing quality , that's not to say that metacritic is a good method in the first place.

 

 

Yeah but where do I stop? 70? 60? 50? Quality on the Metacritic scale is 75 but there are a lot of gaming favorites below that. It looks to me that there isn't anything anybody has vouched for below 60. If I do this is that a good place to end?

 

 

When you say quality are you talking about "quality" are you reffering to high end graphics , quality writting , impressive soundtrack or simply how fun the game is to play ?

The prior can be compared more scientifcaly than the latter , if your basicaly trying to compare how fun 360 exclusives are in comparison to how enjoyable PS3 exclusives are then you've taken on a challenge I believe you won't succesfully be able to complete.

 

Here is were opinion comes in.

I shouldn't have said "believe" that gives the impression that I might think there's a possibility of me being wrong . In this situation the bolded is fact.

 

Any here is where fanboyism comes in.

 

It's either you don't understand or don't want to understand what i'm trying to say. It works both ways so accusing me of being a fanboy isn't going to work on this occasion , it's like comparing the taste of oranges to apples or the enjoyment you get of listening to classical music vs gangster rap . How am I a fanboy for asserting that quality in regards to gaming cannot be scientificaly compared.