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epsilon72 said:
Pristine20 said:
epsilon72 said:
Pristine20, how do you explain the fact that some of us have parents, grandparents, extended family, etc. that have had meaningful relationships for decades?

I wouldn't call having a successful relationship an exception to the rule. All it takes is a bit of maturity and selflessness.

 

Just when I was hoping this thread would die...

Meaningful relationships =/= love. Check my previous posts for why I think some couples stick together. Also, the divorce rate have increased since parents and grandparents. This is what the data available says.

Really?  You have a really strange and different idea of what love is then...

 

Yeah, I'm not sure the concept exists. Loving someone = willing to die in their place (very concept of christianity). If only we could test this and see how many of those who are "in love" actually pass...

 



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what a stupid question, games off course, you can actually shut it after playing.........









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highwaystar101 said:
Awww, this thread made me sad.

Don't listen to the hater loli, your boyfriend is lovely, everything you have told me makes me think he is a great guy. Also, you are engaged, which I think is a pretty big comitment to make to one so far away which makes me think you two must almost be fated to be together lol.

 

If this is in reference to me, you should know that I'm not hating on anyone. I never insulted her boyfriend or anyone else for that matter yet the many immature users couldn't wait to start calling me names. Some of you really need to grow up and learn to keep your cool. I'm only giving my opinion on the subject at hand and what statistics and probability have shown. It' this damned biostat class...

It's good to see more actually opening up.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Pristine20 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:

 

You've given enough evidence in this thread to earn the title (like: The only thing keeping women in "check" is the fear of being branded "sluts" by society)...  then taking things a step further to make things too damn personal telling her that "You'll be rid of the "fairytales" soon enough", "You're no fairlytale" and much like outlaw said that's basically putting yourself above her and deciding that she somehow believes she has a good relationship because of social conditioning and fairytales... could it possibly be that two people actually care about each other (love) and you don't have the right to say something so personal to someone especially someone you don't know nor know her situation...  So really get over yourself, if you got opinions that's fine, but if you're going to say something like that to someone keep it to yourself...

The last time I checked, that was not how pigs behaved. They don't even have anywhere close to the cognitive ability required to make the kind of arguments I've put forth. Quit defending "the girl". She can speak for herself. You've tried your best to condemn me and positioned your own opinions as "right" and in the same breath , tell me "get over yourself"...how amusing. Your opinion isn't doing me any favors either, you ought to have kept them to yourself

 

 

Uhm no you have no cooth about you, which is why I said to keep your opinions to yourself, you treat yourself as right and make comments that are too personal to someone who you don't know, it doesn't matter if they're female or male, not having respect for others is another pigish act which you only keep condemning yourself by replying to every post.  But the thing is because you must get the last word and feel above everyone posting you'll never listen to anyone else, see that there are other truths not just your own, as well as seeing that being so closed minded is ignorance, so is the life of the blind.



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Pristine20 said:
epsilon72 said:
Pristine20 said:
epsilon72 said:
Pristine20, how do you explain the fact that some of us have parents, grandparents, extended family, etc. that have had meaningful relationships for decades?

I wouldn't call having a successful relationship an exception to the rule. All it takes is a bit of maturity and selflessness.

 

Just when I was hoping this thread would die...

Meaningful relationships =/= love. Check my previous posts for why I think some couples stick together. Also, the divorce rate have increased since parents and grandparents. This is what the data available says.

Really?  You have a really strange and different idea of what love is then...

 

Yeah, I'm not sure the concept exists. Loving someone = willing to die in their place (very concept of christianity). If only we could test this and see how many of those who are "in love" actually pass...

 

There are varying degrees and different forms of love. You can change the definition to suit whatever you want, to pretend like it can't exist, but that hardly changes the feelings many people have for others. I'm not arguing about anything else you said, but I really think it's a bit silly for you to deny that the feeling of love itself doesn't exist. You can argue back if you want, I find it hard to argue about love with logic and facts, but the truth is, love isn't something that is so easily defined. I'm not a psychologist, but I've felt really deep and caring feelings for people, and to me that's love.

I just want to put one thought in your head to think about though, most of "us" don't see love as one specific state, there are varying types of love for different relationships, and there are varying degrees of it, just like with any other emotion.

I will also say this, and it's been shown countless times in history, people WILL die to protect another person. Are you seriously denying this happens? I don't know your exact definition of love, but it's very possible that your idea of it doesn't exist. That however, doesn't mean that other people don't feel very attached and caring to others. Maybe you just need to redefine what love means to you.

Damn, arguing about what an emotion is and who feels it and when is pretty damn hard to do with logic and facts. I'd have just as hard a time arguing about what being "happy" is. It's really easy to twist and convolute these types of things to fit what you want it to.

One last thing though; lets say that I have this definiton in my head for what "happy" means. Now the definition I have set up for "happy" is beyond reach of what humans actually feel, but that doesn't mean that they aren't having those feelings of elation that they call "happiness", right? Or does everyone stop feeling "happy" because my definition of it is different from theirs?

This turned out a hella lot longer than I anticipated.



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wfz said:
Pristine20 said:
epsilon72 said:
Pristine20 said:
epsilon72 said:
Pristine20, how do you explain the fact that some of us have parents, grandparents, extended family, etc. that have had meaningful relationships for decades?

I wouldn't call having a successful relationship an exception to the rule. All it takes is a bit of maturity and selflessness.

 

Just when I was hoping this thread would die...

Meaningful relationships =/= love. Check my previous posts for why I think some couples stick together. Also, the divorce rate have increased since parents and grandparents. This is what the data available says.

Really?  You have a really strange and different idea of what love is then...

 

Yeah, I'm not sure the concept exists. Loving someone = willing to die in their place (very concept of christianity). If only we could test this and see how many of those who are "in love" actually pass...

 

There are varying degrees and different forms of love. You can change the definition to suit whatever you want, to pretend like it can't exist, but that hardly changes the feelings many people have for others. I'm not arguing about anything else you said, but I really think it's a bit silly for you to deny that the feeling of love itself doesn't exist. You can argue back if you want, I find it hard to argue about love with logic and facts, but the truth is, love isn't something that is so easily defined. I'm not a psychologist, but I've felt really deep and caring feelings for people, and to me that's love.

I just want to put one thought in your head to think about though, most of "us" don't see love as one specific state, there are varying types of love for different relationships, and there are varying degrees of it, just like with any other emotion.

I will also say this, and it's been shown countless times in history, people WILL die to protect another person. Are you seriously denying this happens? I don't know your exact definition of love, but it's very possible that your idea of it doesn't exist. That however, doesn't mean that other people don't feel very attached and caring to others. Maybe you just need to redefine what love means to you.

Damn, arguing about what an emotion is and who feels it and when is pretty damn hard to do with logic and facts. I'd have just as hard a time arguing about what being "happy" is. It's really easy to twist and convolute these types of things to fit what you want it to.

One last thing though; lets say that I have this definiton in my head for what "happy" means. Now the definition I have set up for "happy" is beyond reach of what humans actually feel, but that doesn't mean that they aren't having those feelings of elation that they call "happiness", right? Or does everyone stop feeling "happy" because my definition of it is different from theirs?

This turned out a hella lot longer than I anticipated.

*applause* amazing post man, really it is, which is the big picture here, everyone has different opinions but to impose your ideals and version of the truth upon someone else and as right is very wrong especially when doing it in a personal manner.  Really makes me think of his post where he said it's hard to see beyond the social conditioning and fairytales, when everything we believe in even his beliefs are due to some sort of social conditioning.  Which means his view of the world is as null and void to us as our's is to him and to present your truth as the only truth is just going to piss people off as he has been doing and seems to enjoy doing.



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wfz said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:
Video games.

In the long run, neither will give you sex but one will never bitch at you for super lame reasons.

I love you Stephaine.

 

Stephanie, or Stephaine?

 

 Exactly! Glad you got it.



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bRoKeN said:

1 in 3 people decide they want to go out with master chief more then getting laid

People including girls? So Master Chief is bi, and not gay as commonly believed? Do the other Village People know it?



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
bRoKeN said:

1 in 3 people decide they want to go out with master chief more then getting laid

People including girls? So Master Chief is bi, and not gay as commonly believed? Do the other Village People know it?

 

Well... at least 1 in every 3rd villager knows it. :P



Pristine20 said:

For the record, women also cheat more often than men...just so you know. The way it goes is this: 10 percent of guys f*** over 50% of girls (mainly the one's you won't go blind by looking at and pretty girls tend to f*** more just to reaffirm their prettiness making you wonder if they have anything else to bring to the table). Some of the other 90% of guys usually have a  steady girlfriend/wife who cheats on them every now and then (with a guy from the first 10%) while the others have nothing but the internet lol.

 

 

Pristine20 said:

For most men with girlfriends/wives, it was very hard to even get a "constant" lay in the first place so why would they risk being kicked back to the playing field? As for women (pretty ones, hell even some not-so-pretty ones), all it takes is to open their legs and any desperate male out there would jump in no questions asked. The only thing keeping women in "check" is the fear of being branded "sluts" by society. You're no fairytale. You may just be an exception but I don't know you so I can't even say for sure. It's obvious that you're trying to paint yourself a pretty picture. Me, I just call it like I see it.

If you don't believe me, go out and take a poll; ask 100 randomly selected guys the last time they had sex, I can bet $10,000 that you'll get an average of 4+ months. Do the same for girls and you'll get an average of maybe 3 weeks. Is this BS too?

 

 

It's a sensitive topic, but there's a lot of truth in this.

Those 10% of guys are the alpha males. For genetic reasons, chicks generally tend to wanna mate with the alpha males but have the second tier males take care of them and their kids. The alpha males are great sperm spreaders but too busy and unreliable as family providers.