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MikeB said:

@ madskillz

The media is reporting facts. If you want an opinion, read an editorial.


It seems you know little about media coverage which is always biased to some extend. A lot of news coverage is editorialized and even if a news service tries to stay as objective as possible, still a selection of "facts" needs to be made (they decide what's important to cover and what's not) and the choice with regard to which people's perspectives to highlight.

Really reread the news coverages regarding the PS3 starting from 2006. Believe me in hind sight it's easy to spot much bias, unprofessionalism, lack of research and verification.

IMO in general the past couple of years US media coverages have been extremely bad. The Dutch media paid much attention to this in the past as well, actually performing in depth research on the issue. (of course this didn't relate to the PS3, but rather with regard to politics, war, cover-ups, etc) Dutch journalists also highlighted how despite best efforts their coverage is also biased to some extend, or even the BBC, a relatively very correct and professional broadcast service.

 

Would you be so kind as to link to these biased articles that you uncovered that are related to the PS3?

What do you think is the motivation for the "US Media" to be biased against the PS3?



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scottie said:
@ snake - that would explain his closing remark

"I'm not implying that Microsoft is paying publications to diss their competitor, but it's obvious that they're benefiting in the internet battle."

Misleading title, perhaps the thread should be closed

 

Not really, the article in question points out people's first responce calling it a joke but takes the negative comments towards the PS3 and Sony as a joke which they are.



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@MikeB

I applaud you for your Nationalism, or your sense of racial superiority. We surely have too few bigots in this world, or people that label vast swaths of industry with titles such as corrupt. What ever would we do without your vaunted Dutch wisdom. Us poor Americans with our idiotic media that sells itself to the highest bidder cannot help us. Even though we have literally thousands of domestic media sources.

I mean its so obvious that all of our hundreds of television stations, thousands of radio stations, thousands of newspapers, hundreds of magazines, and thousands of websites are all terribly and grossly incompetent. I mean I am sure you analyzed all of them correct? Well at least a good subset? Perhaps five or six who cares if that small it is a good sample right?



@ Dodece

Grow up, I lived in the San Francisco, California, many "Americans" feel just the same.

I am not really nationalistic neither (call me European) or racist neither, my wife's Iranian and I worked in Austria for a long time and I liked living there better than back here in the Netherlands. 80% of my personal friends aren't even Dutch (some of my friends here in Holland are American, they work here as chiropractors)!

Wow, just wow....



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There is so much I can say about that article but I am keeping my mouth closed.



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well yahh a nationalist bias media like the american one no shiet they will hate on a Asian or European brand and kiss ass of their own.

Why you think MS was not eaten alive for releasing a defective pos on the market even though they knew of its faults yet still released it.



MikeB said:

@ Dodece

Grow up, I lived in the San Francisco, California, many "Americans" feel just the same.

I am not really nationalistic neither (call me European) or racist neither, my wife's Iranian and I worked in Austria for a long time and I liked living there better than back here in the Netherlands. 80% of my personal friends aren't even Dutch (some of my friends here in Holland are American, they work here as chiropractors)!

Wow, just wow....

 

Give me a break. You're talking about how Americas felt the media reported the Iraq war, not the HD console war. The US media doesn't give a shit about the videogame industry outside of the money it generates. There is no white house of gaming saying "hey, write articles bashing the PS3 and we might help you out". The media reporting negatively on the PS3 and Sony are the media reporting facts. A console isn't supposed to see YOY declines during the holiday at this stage in its life. And if they are, said company should be doing something to rectify it, instead of being outsold 2 to 1 by it's main competitor and 3 to 1 by the market leader. And if they can't, and that company is about post a $1.7 billion loss with one of their flagship products failing to catch on, that's legitimate (and bad) news to report.



MikeB said:

@ madskillz

The media is reporting facts. If you want an opinion, read an editorial.


It seems you know little about media coverage which is always biased to some extend. A lot of news coverage is editorialized and even if a news service tries to stay as objective as possible, still a selection of "facts" needs to be made (they decide what's important to cover and what's not) and the choice with regard to which people's perspectives to highlight.

Really reread the news coverages regarding the PS3 starting from 2006. Believe me in hind sight it's easy to spot much bias, unprofessionalism, lack of research and verification.

IMO in general the past couple of years US media coverages have been extremely bad. The Dutch media paid much attention to this in the past as well, actually performing in depth research on the issue. (of course this didn't relate to the PS3, but rather with regard to politics, war, cover-ups, etc) Dutch journalists also highlighted how despite best efforts their coverage is also biased to some extend, or even the BBC, a relatively very correct and professional broadcast service.

And what do you do again? Son, I have been a journalist for nearly 13 years - worked on the copy desk and design desk, as well as IT at least 4 different papers, the last one is the 9th biggest in the country with a 400K plus circulation. I know much more about newspapers than you can dream about. Unless you have spent one night rimming, getting your story pulled apart or directed a desk, you don't know jack.

For your information, there are several ways to get a news story. First, it could be leaked by a company employee. Second, they can get the scoop from analyst. Third, they can do the research themselves.

Next, after the story is done, it's sifted through a host of editors, and if it's huge, the executive editor or managing editor will read the story to make sure it is newsworthy, and worth the heat they may take if it's controversial. If it could get the newspaper sued, the paper or TV station will consult a lawyer about the legal ramifications. After that, the story hits the design desk, is put on a page, and then is read by another 4-5 copy editors and slots. If it's BS, it rarely makes it this far.

As far as TV stations and the like, they have a similar process, and will interrupt programs depending on how big the news is.

Bottom line - a person in the media has access to much, much better news than a guy living with mommy and on his Mac/PC in her basement ... and playing on their said console all day.

News is news, and your devotion of the Sony family is remarkable. The company is losing mad money, folks are losing their jobs - divisions will be axed - and here you come, with the Alice in Wonderland music playing softly in the background, skipping down the yellow brick road saying 'The media is out to get my crush.'

I was content to just ignore you, like most of other folks in their right mind, because Sony could admit to being the antichrist, and you would still be on board to the end.

Show us facts to back your truckload of dung you just dumped.

 



Dianko said:
MikeB said:

@ Dodece

Grow up, I lived in the San Francisco, California, many "Americans" feel just the same.

I am not really nationalistic neither (call me European) or racist neither, my wife's Iranian and I worked in Austria for a long time and I liked living there better than back here in the Netherlands. 80% of my personal friends aren't even Dutch (some of my friends here in Holland are American, they work here as chiropractors)!

Wow, just wow....

 

Give me a break. You're talking about how Americas felt the media reported the Iraq war, not the HD console war. The US media doesn't give a shit about the videogame industry outside of the money it generates. There is no white house of gaming saying "hey, write articles bashing the PS3 and we might help you out". The media reporting negatively on the PS3 and Sony are the media reporting facts. A console isn't supposed to see YOY declines during the holiday at this stage in its life. And if they are, said company should be doing something to rectify it, instead of being outsold 2 to 1 by it's main competitor and 3 to 1 by the market leader. And if they can't, and that company is about post a $1.7 billion loss with one of their flagship products failing to catch on, that's legitimate (and bad) news to report.

 

 

don't you think you are overreacting now? Who said anything about White House trying to bash PS3. Yes Sony lost money lately, but Microsoft lost 6 billion on Xbox family and 1 billion on RROD and MIcrosoft is letting 6000 employees go, but you didn't see that on Internet media lately, did you? And PS3 sold more in january 2009 than 360 in january 2008. And don't forget 360 is getting massacred in Japan, it can't even sell 1 million and its been out for 3 years ( in japan )