I think the title should be By how much will Halo 3 ODST outsell Halo 3 ODST? fixed

Just because people have high expectations for killzone 2 does not mean they think it will outsell a highly established franchise on a platform with a bigger userbase. How can anyone think that killzone 2 will outsell halo ODST when comparing sales of past shooters on both platforms not to mention halo (sorry...master chief) is arguably the 360's biggest mascot.

IGN predicts that KZ2 will sell 800,000 copies in the first 8 weeks. Halo ODST ranks at 750,000.

only million sellers they see (in the first 8 weeks) are R5 and Wii sports: resort.

Who the fuck cares? You nerds need to go out and get some pussy.

Roughly negative 1.5 million.

4.5 million for Killzone 2, 6 million for Halo 3: ODST.

We have to factor in the lack of Master Chief and the fact that it's a budget game.

I'm going to predict by 0 copies, and I'm willing to make a bet on that

I believe we are looking at the following regarding Halo (the original) and Half-Life (the original):

1. The original Halo was slotted to be a PC FPS by Bungie that made some solid PC games, such as the Myth series, and did Marathon on the Mac, which was a noted FPS series there.  Some AWESOME graphics at the time for Halo were shown, and people got excited.  Microsoft then decided to make it a console FPS, and people who followed the title waited, and were curious to see if they could pull it off.  And Bungie did, establishing the FPS genre as viable on consoles.  Other titles, such as Call of Duty followed, and we were off to the races.

2. Half-Life is an interested study in accidental, or maybe it was intentional, use of piracy as a means of hyping up a game.  It was a well done title, but what Valve/Sierra did was was release a small set of the game, "Day one" that was like one eight of the game.  It was supposed to only go to OEMs I believe, and NOT get out in the wild.  Well, throw this down as people take it as a challenge.  Day One happened to have a bit of "have to have it" buzz about it, with a quasi-illegal feel, so it was talked about, and people wanted to try it.  I know it drove me to try it.  By the time the game came out, it became a must-have in the PC market.  And I got it.

I think an ironic part is what became of Half-Life multiplayer.  It did what no one probably predicted: Become a multiplayer powerhouse, spawning multiple genre defining FPS modes, with the top one being Counterstrike, but it did put Team Fortress on the map to.  I actually said, in one of the worst underestimations ever, "Great single player game.  But it won't amount to much multiplayer".  I traded it based on this thinking, back when you could trade in PC games and get money and store credit.

Once multiplayer took off, based upon great single player, then Half-Life became what it is.  Halo became what it is by being the first good FPS to make it to consoles, and become a killer app that was used to sell the XBox.

People actually follow that crap?