steverhcp02 said:
it seems to me the biggest barrier here is people who own one console or another or who enjoy epeen arguments and debates just not understanding what theyre saying or reading.
The wii is innovative its advanced into its own market and expanded its userbase and demographics. To say in one breath the Wii is innovative and yet also remains in the same market as the PS3 and 360 is not only hipocritical but ridiculous. The wii has expanded and grown and reached dmeographics and the product itself is simply not in the same market as the console and videogame industry that we have all known.
the main problem in these "ZOMG sony is in denial" threads is people that are still stuck on "videogame market" as a constant. The PS3 and 360 have remained and cater to the original histrorical "market" and the wii has evolved what we have always viewed as a constant...controlle rin hand, pushing buttons on our couch shoot em or score points system.
Look, its ridiculous to say the wii doesnt play or sell videogames, but its just as ridiculous to not be able to understand WHY the wii is selling buttloads. Its seriously getting ridiculous that the majority of the people arguing for Hirai to shut up and ramining firm in the stance that the Wii competes with the PS3 DIRECTLY refuse to acknowledge the real variables at work.
its not denial, its not anger its not a 5 step process....the wii has expanded immensly how people VIEW videogames....because of this it cant be thrown in with tradition systems or systems that really only have one thing in common, putting a disc in a box and things showing up on screen. you cant just take one aspect that these things have in common and say theyre teh same because of this one thing.
People need to just understand its very simple. the HD consoles over higher resolution, video on demand, rental services, advanced audio, graphics and traitions control schemes. The variables and aspects of the Wii and 360 and PS3 literally have few things in common so i dont understand how people who are knowledgable about these systems can still argue theyre in the same market when theyre really not very similar in their functions.
They have some common variables but a far greater amount of things different....they simply cant be compared directly....
Nintendo has prospered BECAUSE of this, the wii has prospered BECAUSE of this. the reason its so successful is because it is different! why is this so hard to understand! it doesnt diminish what the system does or has accomplished, its not a stab at gaming its just simply different and created its own market. its a good thing for gods sake. its different.
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Well, it all comes down to how you define competition ... Personally, I look at it along the lines of competition for finite development resources and competition for system sales; and I would define how direct the competition is based on how likely the performance of one system will impact another system's access to development resources, and how likely the sale of one system will prevent the sale of another system.
With that in mind we can see that (while there is some competition between home consoles and handhelds) there is not much direct competition between home consoles and handhelds because the massive success of the Playstation and PS2 didn't have much impact on the massive success of the Gameboy, Gameboy Advance or Nintendo DS.
In contrast, the Wii and HD consoles are fighting over the same development resources and games, and buying one of the consoles does have an impact on your likelyhood to buy another console. While the Wii may not be in as direct competition as consoles have been in recent time, and the PS3 and XBox 360 may be in more direct competition than most previous consoles have been, there is still enough direct competition between the Wii and HD consoles that it is foolish to ignore it.
