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Legend11 said:
BenKenobi88 said:

The same model while playing doesn't look any different from the one shown in the previous picture.


Ok, I'll also have to add my voice to the ones that don't believe the pictures people are throwing around here for Super Smash Brothers Brawl are representative of the final product. They're all taken from the E3 2006 CGI trailer and it's very dubious to think that the final game will look anywhere near that. It's the same as those who took the pictures from the original CGI trailers of Killzone 2 and Motorstorm and held them as examples of games that were vastly superior graphics wise to anything on the 360.

Super Smash Brothers Brawl E3 2006 Trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/10606.html

ps. The lack of aliasing on Link (except his forward foot) and the amount of detail is a dead giveaway in my opinion in that pic. And the other picture of Link used in the GC vs. Wii Link comparison is also a CGI Link.


E3 2007 trailer you say? http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/info/info01.html

That was the only trailer in E3 2007, it was a 15 second gameplay footage trailer that was played during the time the release date was announced.  For Proof, here is the link to the Gametrailers page for Super Smash Bros. Brawl http://www.gametrailers.com/game/2686.html

Which, yet again does not even feature the level that in-game screenshot was taken from.   



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Legend11 said:
naznatips said:
 

Actually not only did you lose this one, you are now digging a nice deep hole, and I'm enjoying this. The picture he posted is from this specific page, which has nothing from the E3 trailer http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/link.html

Only very small parts of that E3 trailer were CGI (specifically when characters were introduced). Everytime you saw combat was in game. In fact, nothing on that website (where we got all our screenshots) are from that E3 trailer. This is easy to prove. First of all, as the one claiming falsehood of the video, I request that you find that image in it. The funny thing is, not only is there not a closeup of Link's landing animation in the video, that level isn't in the video at all. Not a single screenshot on the website has been taken out of the video, and even if this had been, it's not one of the character introduction scenes (the only pre-rendered ones).

Oh and thankfully we have someone on this website very capable of verifying if that rendering of Link is CGI or not. Twesterm in fact works in the game industry.


The picture is in fact from the E3 06 trailer, go watch it, it's near the very beginning of the trailer. The trailer is all CGI, and lets get Twestern to comment on it.


The E3 06 trailer is right in front of me Legend.  The level in the screen you are refering to is called Skyworld http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage08.html and it's not featured in the E3 2006 trailer or the E3 2007 trailer, despite both being composed mostly of gameplay footage.  We are past the point that you should have admitted you were wrong, but please keep arguing.  I'm really enjoying this.  I'll enjoy it even more when Twesterm shows up.



mikey said:

you guys mean this trailer?

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/info/info01.html


Yes that's the one I'm talking about.  Compare that trailer to the one shown at E3 06.



Legend11 said:
mikey said:

you guys mean this trailer?

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/info/info01.html


Yes that's the one I'm talking about. Compare that trailer to the one shown at E3 06.


.... the combat is identical. I'm not denying there were small sections of the E3 06 trailer that were CGI. In fact I'll even go through them for you.

CGI: The instant before Mario's Final Smash around 16 seconds, the instant before Link's at 26 seconds, Kirby from 30 seconds to 32 seconds, The ship launching and Meta Knight's introduction from 35 seconds to 42 seconds, Pit's attack and introduction from 47 seconds to 55 seconds, from Samus's Final Smash at 1:00 to Wario's Nuclear Fart at 1:37, and finally Snake throwing off the crate at 2:25. All combat seen in that video is real time in game footage.



I can't be bothered arguing this anymore, lets wait and see what Twestern says.



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naznatips said:
Legend11 said:
BenKenobi88 said:

The same model while playing doesn't look any different from the one shown in the previous picture.


Ok, I'll also have to add my voice to the ones that don't believe the pictures people are throwing around here for Super Smash Brothers Brawl are representative of the final product. They're all taken from the E3 2006 CGI trailer and it's very dubious to think that the final game will look anywhere near that. It's the same as those who took the pictures from the original CGI trailers of Killzone 2 and Motorstorm and held them as examples of games that were vastly superior graphics wise to anything on the 360.

Super Smash Brothers Brawl E3 2006 Trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/10606.html

ps. The lack of aliasing on Link (except his forward foot) and the amount of detail is a dead giveaway in my opinion in that pic. And the other picture of Link used in the GC vs. Wii Link comparison is also a CGI Link.


Ahaha oh god thank you Legend. This is just gold. I wish BenKenobi was here to read this. First of all, that E3 trailer was not CGI. Second, you actually think this is CGI? I have a fun website for you. Hundreds of pics of Smash Bros. exist on this website, which must equal dozens of hours of CGI. http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

Man Nintendo is really dedicated to the lie. Like the Moon Landing and the Holocaust. Hahaha.  What will us poor Wii owners do with these crappy graphics that you think are CGI.  Can't win em all eh Legend? 


tHOSE ARE AMAZING! O_O



 

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http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=150&id=3886



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ItsaMii said:
http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=150&id=3886

Ah yes, Dolla's Crow Eating thread should do nicely. :)



Legend, it's all real time. Those graphics are not that difficult to achieve from a technical point of view.

You are the FIRST person I know that questions the authenticity of those images.

Big crow time.



Legend11 said:
Entroper said:

Legend, there are multiple scenes in that trailer of actual gameplay, where you can see the entire stage as it would be seen in the game, and characters using their actual in-game moves. If they wanted to CG-it-up, they could have used effects much more impressive than what you see in the trailer. I have little reason to believe that those segments are not representative of the final game.

From a purely technical standpoint, these graphics aren't really incredibly impressive. But they look very beautiful because of the attention paid to detail in the art, and the fluidity of the animations. They also look like a reasonable (not huge) step up from the Gamecube and on-par with what we should expect on the Wii when developers choose to make use of its potential.


People argued that the gameplay in the Motorstorm and Killzone 2 trailers were real as well. I'm just stating my opinion that the trailer these images are being taken from is complete CGI and not something that the Wii could do. But I guess we'll find out for sure when the actual game comes out.


Then stop saying things like "that doesn't change the FACT that it's CGI" when you know that it's your opinion.  If all you can do is ignore my arguments and cite two other game trailers, neither of which have anything to do with Brawl, and then cite the E3 Brawl trailers which contain plenty of in-game footage, then you're not going to convince anyone.