I think the crux of your argument (which, if I can assume that you are taking a position against mine) is that bolded snippet.
However, you change the viewpoint with that wording "long time fans". Long time fans =/= core gamers, but by wording it that way you can include 2 casual games into a category that was supposed to be defined as gamer's games and make it look better than it really is.

(I played Bubsy back in the day, does that make bubsy a gamer's game? No, it was a horrible game)

As for the other two games in that list SSBB is ten months old and Shake-it is probably the only game that I can agree with you is a gamer's game, but not by much. To me Wii fit, music, sluggers, Animal crossing, vc games, ocean, rainbow, art style, are all meant to be interesting to people who don't play video games.

Quick summary: I haven't seen anything SSBB calibur in ten months with the exception of shake it and maybe MaBoShi.

 But then again this isn't going to go anywhere because it is my opinion. However, the fact that you are (even if unconsciously) twisting the wording around is showing that you have something to prove, and makes me think that my argument does have some grounding.

To me Nintendo's core gamers are their long time fans, and I thought 'long time fans' sounded better than 'core gamers' and I didn't want repeat the word 'gamers' so many times. And if Mario Super Sluggers and Animal Crossing: City Folk are for casual gamers, to whom did their predecessors sell on the GameCube? Also, what is a gamer's game?

And do you even have a Wii?

Congrats Outkast! Another thread in which you have absolutely no point to make.

That quote is old as hell, genius. And while it makes for great PR, and they are doing what they say, they are obviously competing with Microsoft and Sony. Otherwise, why are you here crying all the time?

I'm sorry if your daddy didn't hug you as a kid.

Of course! Nintendo is competing for the world's domination!

@outcast

Hey man I love Bob but dude, get with the times, that quote was from 2007 and early 2007, granted Iwata has been saying it for way too long.

But bend twist turn or whatever.

In the end all he is saying is that Nintendo is innovating, and views Microsoft and Sony as Copycat companies, they don't want to compete with copycats as that's a sinking ship. If you go to Nintendo's webpage and check about Nintendo, they state themselves to be the "Worlds leading innovator..." this means, no competeing, because it's not innovation if your innovation is competing the moment of release to the market with another product.

Innovation attracts new customers - that's all he's saying and these customers are the ones that are indifferent towards games, they are so because the copy cats are trying to fight for the same customers in the same old ways that Nintendo had already established back with the SNES and N64. =P

How can you argue for 10 pages about this, it is the CEO of Nintendo KOREA, talking about KOREA. Read the quote before posting.

I already said, games of SSBB, TP, SMG, calibur. Being a fan of something doesn't make it good. And also those aren't really defined as core either because core just means what the majority of the people buy. For the wii, wii fit is a core game, along with SSBB and MKwii, and SMG, wii sports and so on.
So, I don't think using "core" is any better. Like I said this is all going to come down to preference because I can say "great games" and you can say you think wii fit is great. So, whatever.

I had a Wii, I got it for SSBB and I was let down really bad. SSBB is still a great game, but for me, that franchise was godly, and this installment wasn't, because they made it too accessible, even though it was already plenty accessible before.
Now my girlfriends sister owns it, and she's a hardcore gamer. She has about 20+ games or more which I routinely play 5-10 hours a week. I've mastered wii sports and unlocked everything in boom blox. Beat mario 64 (again..) and even attempted to play wii music (barf)

I've played a LOT of wii games, and they are fun. But if there was an HD console next to it I think I would put down the wiimote and play tekken, cod4, MGS4, Fifa....etc etc..... The only reason I really play it is because I am an addict. Some interestig games coming in the future though.  I'm getting her Oneechanbara day 1.

What do you have in your preferences 10 posts per page? That's so casual.... I have it set to 100!!!!

And yes we know he's talking about korea. But I'm sure you didn't read our posts because you spent so much time clicking next page.

Waiting for the CEO of Nintendo Mongolia quotes.

All that proves is that you and have different tastes in games. Also, I never said whether does games are good or not.

Edit: And so you can better understand my position, I don't think games should be labeled as "casual" or "hardcore", rather those terms apply to gamers.