"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it."
Malcolm X
Then there are countries like China that try to twist patriotism into Fascism.
Quite succesfuly I might add too.
Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
— Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire
| Tyrannical said: Then there are countries like China that try to twist patriotism into Fascism. Quite succesfuly I might add too. |
Indeed. China is a perfect example, though the situation is getting somewhat better since the middle class is growing over there. Progress is still slow, however.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
I live in the UK, and I must say patriotism is petty dead here. No longer do people feel british here, having a multi-cultural society is destorying all the values that society as buildup over the last 1000 years. My family are from a different part of europe and growing up in UK we always tried to fit in to the english way of life but keeping our own customs as well. The scots are a very proud people but the english are not. In england we are not even allow to fly the english flag outside our homes. Forcing multi-cultural on society as a all is leading to more people supporting far-right groups including the BNP.
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| canch said: I live in the UK, and I must say patriotism is petty dead here. No longer do people feel british here, having a multi-cultural society is destorying all the values that society as buildup over the last 1000 years. My family are from a different part of europe and growing up in UK we always tried to fit in to the english way of life but keeping our own customs as well. The scots are a very proud people but the english are not. In england we are not even allow to fly the english flag outside our homes. Forcing multi-cultural on society as a all is leading to more people supporting far-right groups including the BNP. |
I am far more proud about living in one of the most (if not the most) multi-cultural countries in the world, then I am about being British.
akuma587 said:
Indeed. China is a perfect example, though the situation is getting somewhat better since the middle class is growing over there. Progress is still slow, however.
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Some believe that patriotism and nationalism go hand in hand. The belief that people in your country are in any way better than people in another country is...fascist.. all humans are born equal. Black people don't need as much sunscreen..but that's about it.
im_sneaky said:
Some believe that patriotism and nationalism go hand in hand. The belief that people in your country are in any way better than people in another country is...fascist.. all humans are born equal. Black people don't need as much sunscreen..but that's about it.
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They're also better runners and more susceptible to certain diseases.
=O
Being proud of your country is great.
If you go over the top though, it gets annoying.
Haha, Akuma sounds like this:
Sometimes, the stupid way is the best way. I mean, if you don't get it, your fault, I really mean, use your head. no need to over explain
Here's my comments:
bad patriotism = bad
good patriotism = good
The stupid way is the best way 
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| Strategyking92 said: Being proud of your country is great. |
Lol, well the Marxist struggle between the bourgeoisie and the proletariat is a question for another day
Its way more complicated than "good" and "bad" patriotism, as many people who do believe in their country and have "good" patriotism are duped into supporting people who completely contort this country's values. And that's not really "good" patriotism, its more like "lazy" patriotism.
Its more like this:
Informed patriotism = good patriotism
Uninformed patriotism = bad/lazy patriotism
And sometimes being a good patriot means criticizing your country.
Staying informed about what the government is doing and criticizing the government for abusing its power either at the ballot box or by discussing these things is the only meaningful way a person can be a good patriot. You can talk all you want about how Farmer Fred who slaps American flag bumper stickers on his car and drones on about how much he loves the military is more patriotic than me. But the fact is that Farmer Fred probably doesn't know a damn thing about what the government is actually doing and probably doesn't even know that much about what it means when the government IS abusing its authority.
What does Farmer Fred know about his Due Process rights and what it means that the government must provide Equal Protection under the law to citizens within its jurisdiction? Does Farmer Fred even know any of the names of the Supreme Court justices currently on the bench? Does Farmer Fred even know when the government has done something unconstitutional? I bet you Farmer Fred can tell me who last season's winner on American Idol was though. That is essentially the average American in a nutshell: ignorant by choice.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
See I don't mind people being patriotic, that is they identify as what they are and support decisions that will drive that nation to better times. Sometimes that includes going against what the government is doing.
Nationalism is when they are proud, blind, and will think that the government is infallible no matter what they do.
The problem with the US is that many of the 1st are also the 2nd types of people.
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