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Sporticus on 18 August 2007
IllegalPaladin said:
Sporticus said:
I wonder if Ckmlb will ever post a negative news item for Sony or the PS3?

 Why, others seem to do so all the time and cover any negative news anyway. 


But why never him?



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akuma587 on 19 August 2007
Sporticus said:
IllegalPaladin said:
Sporticus said:
I wonder if Ckmlb will ever post a negative news item for Sony or the PS3?

Why, others seem to do so all the time and cover any negative news anyway.


But why never him?

Because he is one of the two mods who actually owns a PS3.  Why don't you ever post anything positive about the PS3?  I honestly remember seeing you in more threads criticizing the PS3 than praising any other system.

 



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a.l.e.x59 on 19 August 2007

This is why I bought the Xbox 360 Elite.



akuma587 on 19 August 2007

I still think making the Core was a terrible decision. It sells so badly compared to the other versions, and the money MS loses making it would be better served dropping the prices of the other two models.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

konnichiwa on 19 August 2007
stof said:
Are there any core owners on this site? I'd love to hear their views on not just this issue, but of their view towards the core in general.

 I was a core owner.

The biggest reason that I sold my X360 was because you miss a lot of fun.
I couldn't download demo's,  I couldn't download extra content or even Xbox live arcade games.

That in fact sucked.

In fact I would have bought another X360 console soon after I sold my core but with the hardware problems I am waiting till MS haves put their new X360 hardware on the market.






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D-FENS on 19 August 2007
LordTheNightKnight said:

 BTW, gimping early adopters is not unprecedented. For one thing, the first runs of the PS2 could only read single layer discs, which is why so many developers were reluctant to use the second layer. That also means that you would have to get a newer PS2 to play games like God of War and Xenosaga. 


By the time GoW came out, I think *MOST* lauch ps2's had been weeded out.  That "Disc Read Error" was freakin' horrible.  This is not anecedotal evidence, for three years, I worked in a store that purchased used consoles, I can't tell you HOW MANY ps2's we had to refuse because they couldn't read the blue discs and/or dvds.  Eventually, we just automatically began turning down certain s# ranges without even bothering to test them.  "Yeah, this is a launch unit, its crap - we're not even going to look at it."

I know that *SOME* people got a lot of use out of their launch units, just like *SOME* people still have launch 360's, but I'd assume that *SOME* people got a lot of miles out of their Chevelles and Gremlins too.



rockstarjerry981 on 19 August 2007

Putting a hard drive into the original Xbox was the best thing microsoft did for themselves in the previous generation. Then they threw it all away with the core model.



ckmlb on 19 August 2007

By the way the degrading the games comment is a literal quote from microsoft at the gamefest event.

I didn't put the degrade word in there, they did. Pretty piss poor choice of words.



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endimion on 19 August 2007
D-FENS said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

BTW, gimping early adopters is not unprecedented. For one thing, the first runs of the PS2 could only read single layer discs, which is why so many developers were reluctant to use the second layer. That also means that you would have to get a newer PS2 to play games like God of War and Xenosaga.


By the time GoW came out, I think *MOST* lauch ps2's had been weeded out. That "Disc Read Error" was freakin' horrible. This is not anecedotal evidence, for three years, I worked in a store that purchased used consoles, I can't tell you HOW MANY ps2's we had to refuse because they couldn't read the blue discs and/or dvds. Eventually, we just automatically began turning down certain s# ranges without even bothering to test them. "Yeah, this is a launch unit, its crap - we're not even going to look at it."

I know that *SOME* people got a lot of use out of their launch units, just like *SOME* people still have launch 360's, but I'd assume that *SOME* people got a lot of miles out of their Chevelles and Gremlins too.


 yeap same thing with me.... I could aven say that I have never seen a console broke that much.... I use to have a lot of customers and friends who bought more than 5 PS2 total at least... so early built being bad is not new... and it won't get better with new tech what ever is the brand... lok at apple and Ipod the issues they had a couple years ago.... 

high tech is always tricky this gen it's MS who fucked it up big time..... (and maybe the 2 other may show their weaknes later, I hope not for their owners though)....  all those new gen are between 1 and 2 years old... it's a long way to go before they end/die we'll probably see a couple changes by then.... 

 



Sporticus on 19 August 2007
akuma587 said:
Sporticus said:
IllegalPaladin said:
Sporticus said:
I wonder if Ckmlb will ever post a negative news item for Sony or the PS3?

Why, others seem to do so all the time and cover any negative news anyway.


But why never him?

Because he is one of the two mods who actually owns a PS3.  Why don't you ever post anything positive about the PS3?  I honestly remember seeing you in more threads criticizing the PS3 than praising any other system.

 


Because I'm not a mod and people don't claim I'm unbiased.

He also owns a Wii and 360 but has no problem in posting negative news about those. Using your very words, you're suggesting that he is biased by choosing only not to post negative news about Sony.



“The Hardcore of the Peach is its pits. Try to get the whole fruit!”

- John Lucas

 

“Every industry is filled with the grave stones of companies who kept doing the same thing.”

- Reggie Fils-Aime

 

“You don’t play Graphics, you look at them.”

- Unknown

 

“Casual Gaming = Anything that’s not an FPS”

- Sony Fandom