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reask said:

I mean Sure It sells bucketloads more than either but so does the DS.

I mean my reasoning been is you dont have a similar gaming experience with it imo.

Lets be honest we can argue about game B been better than game A on Either PS3 or 360 but you never see anyone saying same game looks better or worse on Wii.

Why because it doesnt have them full stop.

Example: could you make super mario mario kart whats cooking etc on PS360. Answer probably yes.

Could you make gears mgs4 cod4 etc for Wii. Answer probably no.

So it is not a similar console to PS360 imo.

This is not to say Wii is better or worse than PS360 as a gaming experience as I am sure Wii owners will say it is better.

But to compare the 3 as been the same type of console is not really accurate.

My opinion only but I reckon I am corect in my analysis of the situation.

 

With graphics tricks, you can make any game that's on the HD consoles work on the Wii.  You just need good artists.

 



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It is very justifiable. The Wii has sold almost as much as both of those systems combined so yes, the Wii should be compared to them.



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Well, my argument is one I used in another thread:"The wii competition did nothing to PS3, the wii is flying by itself, not taking any significant amount of sales of the PS3. If there wasn´t a wii, the PS3 would be barelly above what is now, so would the x360. This gen would be a failure compared to the last one.

Is actually it´s price allied with another console perceived as equal, with almost the same games, at almost half the price that´s pushing it to last place. Without a x360, the PS3 would be at almost 40 mln, but still behind the wii. A lot of today x360 owners wouldn´t get a PS3 because of the price. Actually is posiible that we would see a even stronger PS2 than it is today.

I actually believe that the wii created itself a separate market, appealing to a niche actually bigger than the number of traditional gamers, apart from Nintendo tradional gamers. It´s becoming a home utillity, almost as a dvd, I reckon it can reach similar popularity or even bigger. That´s why I don´t imagine wii buyers getting to stores thinking "wich one I get?". No, they go to the store Knowing that they want a wii. In most cases they don´t even know the competition. So don´t blame wii, blame sony and MS for Ps3 failure(relative)."

And that´s why Wii can be compared to the PS360 in terms of sales and games. It´s another market.




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reask said:

Could you make gears mgs4 cod4 etc for Wii. Answer probably no.

So it is not a similar console to PS360 imo.

This is not to say Wii is better or worse than PS360 as a gaming experience as I am sure Wii owners will say it is better.

But to compare the 3 as been the same type of console is not really accurate.

My opinion only but I reckon I am corect in my analysis of the situation.

 

 

Actually, in terms of COD...  the answer is clearly Yes.  There is COD: WAW for the wii to prove it, and some who have reviewed multiple versions prefer the Wii due to the emersion of the controls.  This is a matter of opinion, but for some gun type controls outweigh graphics, and obviously for some graphics are more important.

 

They are clearly comparable, as if it wasn't for the wii I would probably own a PS3...  I am sure I am not the only one who picked Wii of the HD alternatives.  (Only reason I say probably, is there is a slight chance it would be a 360 instead).  I am happy with the Wii, and see little reason to get a 360 or PS3 now.

Just because the PS3 and 360 can not compete with the Wii is no reason not to compare them, unless you are saying they are better off compared to the PS2?

 

@aavidbacon:A niche market can not be a larger market...  You could say the Wii is the larger market, and that the PS3 and 360 are now in the smaller niche HD console market...

 



reask said:
I mean Sure It sells bucketloads more than either but so does the DS.
I mean my reasoning been is you dont have a similar gaming experience with it imo.

Lets be honest we can argue about game B been better than game A on Either PS3 or 360 but you never see anyone saying same game looks better or worse on Wii.

(clip)So it is not a similar console to PS360 imo. This is not to say Wii is better or worse than PS360 as a gaming experience as I am sure Wii owners will say it is better.

But to compare the 3 as been the same type of console is not really accurate.

My opinion only but I reckon I am corect in my analysis of the situation.

I can see how you would like there to be no comparison because on multi-platform releases, the PS360 does not always automatically win and if you compare last years games to versions the year before the difference is getting tighter as 1) 3rd party developers start to learn how to use the Wiis strengths and 2) As they start to write version for the Wii rather than just cramming over a sorry port and glueing on controls:

And because when I posted something like this in the past, I got back responses stating as though it were a fact that when a Wii score looks comparable or better that is because the reviewers don't judge them against each other or on the same scale.

IF YOU BELIEVE THAT BS - PLEASE READ SOME QUOTATIONS FROM REVIEWS BELOW THAT PROVE THE CONTRARY. If you already knew that was crap, then the reading is oppotional but kinda fun.  

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I do believe that Grampy has addressed the OP and proved not only is it justifiable, but logical. On top of that, he shows that it has already happening. I don't think there's much else to add at this point.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

1. "The Wii is too graphicly weak to compete."
2. "The Wii is for kiddys and grandmothers."
3. "The Wii is not competting with the PS360."
4 & 5. Just waitting for these stages.



4) Third Party games can't compete with Nintendo's?



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

JHawkNH said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

1. "The Wii is too graphicly weak to compete."
2. "The Wii is for kiddys and grandmothers."
3. "The Wii is not competting with the PS360."
4 & 5. Just waitting for these stages.

 

#1 and #3 both stage 1,  Denial... 

#2 falls under stage 3...  Bargaining...

Stage 5 is when an HD console owner buys a Wii.

 

 



Arius Dion said:
I don't think there's much else to add at this point.

I don't know, some cat pictures would be really nice.