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sjhillsa said:

 

One_touch_KO said:
Yeah but the blockbusters for this entire gen will be only on the Wii:

Wii Sports
Wii Sports Resort

 

I have to agree with @leo-j here..

Seriously?? Are you looking forward to those titles?? They are just mini games really.

 

I'm not saying HD gaming is better, but I'm sure many people are looking forward to Resident Evil 5 as I am and many other titles for the X360 or PS3. The Wii does have Mario Galaxy, but not much else. Too many remakes and cut-down games on the Wii. I've heard they were taking the photography part away for Dead Rising on the Wii...

 

@metalmonstar - :) Well...I'm not saying Dark Forces or Jedi Knight.. damn remakes.. but maybe a jedi game exclusive to the wii with motion controls... Then again, No More Heroes was pretty good.

 

 

This thread is full of crap.

When WSR sword fighting pawns every single action / fighting game  this yr, and def. convinces many more core players of the Wii's potential, all critics will be silent.

Your excuses, such as dog frisbee, will seem unimportant and shallow by comparrison.



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Beacuse the more "blockbuster" games they make on these so called "HD" consoles that costs millions and millions of dollars the bigger the chance that they won't earn a profit wich leads to cancelation of games or worst bankrouptcy.



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heck i'm fine if they keep putting their Halo 4, GTAV, COD6, GT6, MGS5, and so on upper numerical numbers on the HD consoles if it means we are getting new thought out and developed games for the Wii.

The number after the game name is a real big turn off for me. When I see it, I think of it as being the same game/characters/items/guns/ect as the previous game just a bit more polished graphics and the levels redesigned so you aren't running down the same hallway.

I mean vegas 2 was like the same, Halo 3 the same, and many other games i have played. Once the 15 minutes of "ooh neat graphics" kicks off its boring again.

I love seeing a new game thrown out there that I have no idea on, like Little Kings Story, or Arc Rise Fantasia and others. Heck for all I know they are later iterations in some series but they look new to me and because of no # I believe they are new.



BMaker11 said:

It then becomes a domino effect. People aren't buying the games on the Wii, they are on the HD consoles. Devs put more big games on the HD consoles, and those gamers buy said games. Because they buy the games, the devs put them on the HD consoles. The cycle then just leaves the Wii out of the picture

 

 

It usn't quite as clear as you think. In the days of the PS-2 most hardcore and most casualk gamers were on the PS-2. So when a good hardcore game with an impressive game idea or good graphics became available hardcore gamers and even some casual gamers bought it.

Now you hzave most casuals on the Wii, but its customers are not all new customers but even a lot of casual gamers from the PS-2, while the XBox 360 and PS-3 are mainly targeted at hardcore gamers (although you can guess that since the last price cut of the Xbox360 its Arcade SKU seems to catch casual gamers too. If this is the cas the PS-3 is in trouble (it might need a price cut to 250$ to attract the same audience!)). In general even the old plattforms had more casual gamers than hardcore gamers but you simply didn't saw the difference. And at the same time the HD games are more expensive simply because their plattforms and capabilities are more complex and offer new capabilities and the graphics need more work, yo you have less customer for games that are more expensive to develop. But at least they offer one advantage compared to the last generation, they can be developped on the same gneral code base and you can try to hide the differences behind special libraries and workflows, while there is no possibility to port to the Wii in the same manner.

But if you look at the number of sold Wii there is a strong incentive to gevelop an independent code base  that can reuse parts of the general multiplattform code. At the same time there is avery strong incentive to make the HD Development cheaper which would mean a very general code base to lower development costs and test time and a general reuse of graphical elements and animations.



irstupid said:
heck i'm fine if they keep putting their Halo 4, GTAV, COD6, GT6, MGS5, and so on upper numerical numbers on the HD consoles if it means we are getting new thought out and developed games for the Wii.

The number after the game name is a real big turn off for me. When I see it, I think of it as being the same game/characters/items/guns/ect as the previous game just a bit more polished graphics and the levels redesigned so you aren't running down the same hallway.

I mean vegas 2 was like the same, Halo 3 the same, and many other games i have played. Once the 15 minutes of "ooh neat graphics" kicks off its boring again.

I love seeing a new game thrown out there that I have no idea on, like Little Kings Story, or Arc Rise Fantasia and others. Heck for all I know they are later iterations in some series but they look new to me and because of no # I believe they are new.

 That's pretty dammed ignorant though, I think the first few years of 360 / PS3 were a bit less adventurous and played things safely with the high costs and whatnot, but now the graphics arn't as bigger seller and everyone's made a alien or war shooter developers are pushing the boundaries for originallity and innovation on the console. More importantly, using the new hardware to do things that weren't possible before, other then shiny graphics.

Then there's everything happening on the PSN / XBLA.

But yeah, I'm sort of worried for next year as there is already a huge list of new IP's which seem to have sizeable budgets with alot of work put into them, all looking pretty new to me too. Some will no doubt be let-downs but there is going to be alot of games unfairly ignored this year I can bet, and we've not even had alot of the big 2009 revealed yet. I'm not sure how the market will cope with so many games, hmm.

 



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This guy(gal?) irstupid is the smartest person to post yet. A built for wii RE game wold destroy RE5. A game like sin & punishment 2 which is perfect for the wii is way more attractive than another FPS. Keep the Blockbusters. Give me more advanced gameplay.



Lurker said:
Wii has a shitty userbase that doesn't buy any good games

37 million-sellers -36, if we exclude Wii Sports- would like to have a word with you. Your warped tastes do not invalidate the quality of the catalog.



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Millennium said:
Lurker said:
Wii has a shitty userbase that doesn't buy any good games

37 million-sellers -36, if we exclude Wii Sports- would like to have a word with you. Your warped tastes do not invalidate the quality of the catalog.

 

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=Wii&publisher=&sort=Total

 

That's not a good argument. Most of them are shovelware crap that I've never heard of.