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bioshock said:
after this holiday season i'm sure there's no more ps4 in the future. how can sony afford the huge investment for a new console. like sega, be a software publisher may be good for sony! So sad!!!

 

lool,,is that why xbox 360 was created after xbox ?xbox had nothing butl losses for MS,,,however they made another console.what makes you think that sony won't?

 



 

 

 

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arsenicazure said:
From the graphs its easy to decipher that the SONY's game division has been the goose that lays the golden egg. It contributes to as much as half of the profits when it performs. '09 looks like the year when PS3 will finlly bear some profit. which is great because once it hits black they'll have more confidence to fight back. good fer you SONY

P.S. notice how the PS2 launch barely affected SONY's resources as compared to the PS3 launch. Blu ray was a bad choice after all

If bluray had not won the format war then yes it would have been the death of Sony. Fortunately for them it did win and that means PS3 will be a viable product for years to come.

 

 

Yes but winning the HD war- but at what cost? So far its bled them into over $5 billions of losses. It will take a LONG time for them to recover from this loss. If SONY pictures hadnt tried to wriggle its way into SONY gaming you might have a cheap, powerful cheerful and far succesful PS3 instead that product is now called the xbox 360.



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Some quick thoughts

1. The story is currently free as a sample of subscriber content (as is the popular story of a Russian professor (and former KGBer) predicting the disintegration of the US in 2010 -- which ironically was the subject of a video game on the original Xbox).

2. The Sony data is for the first half of the year. So there is a lot of interpretation to those numbers.

3. Falling sales could help the game division. Less products sold at loss means less gross revenue but also means less loss -- unless you have already produced the units, in which case it means mounting losses. Meanwhile, other Sony products are slumping in sales, hurting the company's overall financial picture.

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Didn't Sony sell their LCD production to Samsung a couple of years ago to cut down their lossed from TV:s, Sony focusing on smaller screens and computer monitors.


You must confuse this with a different company or technology. Their TVs have been very profitable before the whole financial market crisis hit. They made a nice profit because of their electronics in 2007 despite the PS3 dragging them down.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200607/06-0714E/index.html



You mean next quarter , current fiscal year or next fiscal year ?


2009. I have problems calculating in fiscal years.



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mike_intellivision said:


3. Falling sales could help the game division. Less products sold at loss means less gross revenue but also means less loss -- unless you have already produced the units, in which case it means mounting losses. Meanwhile, other Sony products are slumping in sales, hurting the company's overall financial picture.

Year-over-year  comparisons:

PS3 sales are down around 20%, so let's say around 1 million less PS3s during the holiday season. At a $50-$100 loss per unit, that means they're saving $50-$100 million dollars due to lower hardware sales during two months.

On the other hand, PS2 software sales are down 2.4 million last week. At $10-$25 revenue per software unit, that's a $24-$60 million loss in one week alone.

PS3 hardware savings due to lower sales don't compensate for the negative factors separately, let alone when they're put together.

 



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I'm not sure why there is so much optimism in this thread. It looks like Sony's game division has lost about 400 billion yen from '06 through the first half of '08. The second half of '08 is looking even worse.

Now look at the most profitable year, '02 for the games division. Just over 100 billion yen. Sony would need FOUR years like that to break even on the PS3 era. I don't see that happening.



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I'm not sure why there is so much optimism in this thread. It looks like Sony's game division has lost about 400 billion yen from '06 through the first half of '08. The second half of '08 is looking even worse.

Now look at the most profitable year, '02 for the games division. Just over 100 billion yen. Sony would need FOUR years like that to break even on the PS3 era. I don't see that happening.

Some people are just grasping at straws for reasons why 2009 won't be another dismal year for SCE. There are some positives for the year, but they're completely drowned out by the negative factors.

Right now the biggest positive I see is that Japan's Central Bank might intervene to weaken the Yen in order to save exporters. Even if that happens SCE is still in a pickle though, just not one as monumental as the one they're in now.

 



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Kyros said:
You mean next quarter , current fiscal year or next fiscal year ?


2009. I have problems calculating in fiscal years.

Sony current  FY end 31 march 2009.

So you mean next FY I suppose. Well we'll see

 



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