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No wreckage at the Pentagon, was a controlled explosion... DEBUNKED!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flight_77_wreckage_at_Pentagon.jpg (Part of a plane)

The government can easily cover up something this huge... DEBUNKED!

Look at Watergate, Iran-Contra affair, hell, even the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

Loose Change shows us the real truth... DEBUNKED!

Loose Change is full of misquotes, spooky music, and just plain lies. Misquote example (Bold is what the used in LC...) "I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybethe smartest thing to do is just pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

Bush did this to justify his invasion of Iraq for oil... DEBUNKED!

If Bush and his administration were smart enough to pull this off, they would've foreseen how incredibly stupid invading Iraq would turn out. Because invading a country, overthrowing the government pissing off millions of people all over the world and causing the deaths of thousands of people is a great way to get oil.

If 9/11 was caused by the Government...

The president can order murder thousands of innocent people, but can't get someone do something about those pesky teens and their video...

Was Pearl Harbor ordered by FDR? Pearl Harbor and 9/11 are pretty much identical (Unimagined attack on American Soil, led America into a war, the government got blamed before someone admitted it).

How did they manage to cover up something so massive, but couldn't keep wiretapping us a secret?

Then who was behind the other terrorist attacks in other countries? Bush? Still? What's his motivation?



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OH SNAP!



well its true that its not a easy to proof it was bush fault.

but it was used as a excuse to invade another country with probably other things in minds like (OIL).



Jo21 said:
well its true that its not a easy to proof it was bush fault.

but it was used as a excuse to invade another country with probably other things in minds like (OIL).

It wasn't it. Did you not read the bit on the war for oil? Iraq was the first preemptive war that America ever went into. We thought they had WMD. This isn't a poorly based claim. They received WMD's back in the Cold War. The other reason was to get rid of Saddam, who was a horrible dictator, see the repression of uprisings in Northern Iraq. This man was also behind the Iran-Iraq war and the Gulf War, so we thought it was a matter of time before he did something like that again.



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Jo21 said:

but it was used as a excuse to invade another country with probably other things in minds like (OIL).

This is a ridiculous viewpoint that sadly too many people let themselves be deluded into.  Iraq has produced LESS oil since the invasion.  The U.S. hasn't taken control of Iraqi oil and even U.S. companies were not given preferences by Iraq in oil contracting.  If we were so desperate for Iraqi oil, we probably would have played the same game many other countries did with the unbelievably corrupt oil-for-food program.

 



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Jo21 said:

but it was used as a excuse to invade another country with probably other things in minds like (OIL).

This is a ridiculous viewpoint that sadly too many people let themselves be deluded into.  Iraq has produced LESS oil since the invasion.  The U.S. hasn't taken control of Iraqi oil and even U.S. companies were not given preferences by Iraq in oil contracting.  If we were so desperate for Iraqi oil, we probably would have played the same game many other countries did with the unbelievably corrupt oil-for-food program.

 

Yes, it is certainly ridiculous when you use the rationale that you provided. It makes more sense if you provide other reasons. I believe Alan Greenspan posited that the war was essentially a war to secure world oil supplies. I am not saying I agree with the viewpoint that Iraq was a war for oil, but it is not as farcical as you make it sound.

 



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I think conspiracy people are nuts...

The same people who say that Bush is an idiot with a sub 50 IQ are the same people who say he is the mastermind behind a global conspiracy. That just doesn't make any sense. Either he is a genius who pulled off the biggest fraud of all time or he's an idiot who couldn't couldn't run a sheep farm. I just wish the naysayers would make up their minds.

Both parties voted for the war, and whether or not you like the war, or the way it's been fought, it doesn't change that. Terrorists did commit terrorism on the United States, we did retaliate for such, and that's that.

Honestly, just leave it be. Bush will be gone in a few weeks anyway, so just back off and let the man be, and show him the respect that any president deserves. I didn't vote for Obama, but I will still show the man the respect that he deserves as our democratically elected president.



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I'm completely convinced, Bush obviously had no ulterior motives for invading Iraq. He definitely didn't come into office with the desire to invade Iraq before 9/11 happened. There is definitely no evidence out there that supports this either.

http://gnn.tv/articles/article.php?id=761

“He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999,” said author and journalist Mickey Herskowitz. “It was on his mind. He said to me: ‘One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.’ And he said, ‘My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.’ He said, ‘If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.”

Definitely no ulterior motives...



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