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olanjiaona said:

For two years now analysts have been predicting the imminent demise of the Wii. They have become a bit quiet recently as it chalks up ever more amazing sales success. Yet there are a few reasons why what we are seeing now is the end of the boom.

  • Any bubble bursts just as it reaches its biggest size. And the Wii is now selling in massively unsustainable numbers. It just cannot go on.

   The old bubble bursting theory.  You sure are right, a bubble bursts when it reaches it's biggest size.  Keep on guessing as to when it will reach it's max size.  If you just keep saying it, one of these days you'll be right, Bruce.  And I'm sure you will celebrate how right you were, when it does finally happen.

Edit:   Ok, when I wrote this, I was thinking bubble bursting was more talking about when sales would decline.  Ya know, like a reasonable person would think would happen.  I wasn't thinking Bruce actually would think sales would drop to almost nothing once the bubble burst.

  • The penetration of HDTVs has increased massively over the last two years. Thus cruelly exposing the Wii’s last generation graphics to far more people.
   Another thing Bruce holds on to.  I can't speak for everyone, but me and several other people have purchased a Wii and already had an HD TV.  Imagine that.
  • The Xbox 360 is cheaper.
   True.  It has been for a while.  Wii is still selling better.
  • The Xbox 360 is a huge amount better than the Wii. It has far more games and vastly more good games. And it has Live, by far the best online gaming portal. Gradually the public will come round to understanding these realities.
   Not all gamers want online.  I agree Live is the best online service, but not everyone wants online.  Especially the 'casual toy market' that Bruce claims is the Wii's customer base later in this article.  And see my comment below about games.
  • The Wii has a very weak game library. The first party games, a few good third party games. Then lots of dross shovel ware. And game consoles are for playing games.
   The Wii certainly needs more quality 3rd party support, but we can all argue about how strong the Wii game library is.  But, the strength of the Wii library is certainly opinion, and not everyone agrees with Bruce's view.  And Shovelware tends to play a game called, 'follow the leader'.
  • Nintendo have now rolled out all their great and famous properties on the Wii. So they have very few places left to go for the stream of AAA titles needed to sustain a platform.
   I'm not sure what he's saying here.  It's a bad thing they have released their great properties for Wii?  Is he saying they can't possibly come up with any more?  I'd like him to explain this one.  Nintendo certainly can make more games, old and new IPs.
  • The Wii is not making much money for many publishers so they are voting with their feet and allocating their resources to platforms that will make them money.
   Wait, I may be wrong here.  But haven't publishers even admitted to just rushing out games on the Wii to make money to support their costly HD games?
  • Most of the Wii customer base is the very casual “toy” market. They will be very fickle as they move onto the next “must have” trend. The Wii will become tired.
   What is the next 'must have' trend in video game consoles?  Are you talking about the next generation?  Well, that has a couple years at least before it comes, and it would be very expected for Wii sales to decline at that point.  Great prediction Bruce.
  • Money is getting a lot tighter as the world tips into recession. Casual frippery, like most Wii purchases, will be an early casualty.
   You would think.  I guess we will see.  I thought the gaming industry would've been hit at least a little bit by the recession by now.  But it seems to keep on truckin.
  • Most people likely to buy a Wii already have. In terms of market penetration Nintendo are now going to suffer from the law of diminishing returns.
   Bruce must have bought into Crazzyman's prediction that the Wii will stop selling once all the Marioboy's have bought one.  Because, once all the Marioboy's buy a Wii, the market will be saturated.

So there we have it. Plenty of reasons why the Wii must eventually face the inevitable. And because the boom has been so massive the collapse of sales will be equally dramatic. And when will this be? Let’s put it this way, we are experiencing the last big Christmas for the Wii.

 

 

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lanjiaona said:

For two years now analysts have been predicting the imminent demise of the Wii. They have become a bit quiet recently as it chalks up ever more amazing sales success. Yet there are a few reasons why what we are seeing now is the end of the boom.

  • Any bubble bursts just as it reaches its biggest size. And the Wii is now selling in massively unsustainable numbers. It just cannot go on.
  • The penetration of HDTVs has increased massively over the last two years. Thus cruelly exposing the Wii’s last generation graphics to far more people.
  • The Xbox 360 is cheaper.
  • The Xbox 360 is a huge amount better than the Wii. It has far more games and vastly more good games. And it has Live, by far the best online gaming portal. Gradually the public will come round to understanding these realities.
  • The Wii has a very weak game library. The first party games, a few good third party games. Then lots of dross shovel ware. And game consoles are for playing games.
  • Nintendo have now rolled out all their great and famous properties on the Wii. So they have very few places left to go for the stream of AAA titles needed to sustain a platform.
  • The Wii is not making much money for many publishers so they are voting with their feet and allocating their resources to platforms that will make them money.
  • Most of the Wii customer base is the very casual “toy” market. They will be very fickle as they move onto the next “must have” trend. The Wii will become tired.
  • Money is getting a lot tighter as the world tips into recession. Casual frippery, like most Wii purchases, will be an early casualty.
  • Most people likely to buy a Wii already have. In terms of market penetration Nintendo are now going to suffer from the law of diminishing returns.

So there we have it. Plenty of reasons why the Wii must eventually face the inevitable. And because the boom has been so massive the collapse of sales will be equally dramatic. And when will this be? Let’s put it this way, we are experiencing the last big Christmas for the Wii.

 

 

 

What a load of garbage. These threads are old, and tired.

 

Sales can stay high for  a long while. Any idiot who looks at the DS, for example, should be able to use his tiny little brain to "get it".

 



 

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As you guys know I've traded my Wii a while back to my brother for his 360.

The day a new full Zelda game comes out, I will go out to the store and buy a Wii, brand new, and play that, plus the back-catalog of games I've missed, and it'll be one of the greatest days of my life.

Just thought I'd slip that in there. Nintendo might not cater to the core as much as they once did, but I'd never lose the love for my favorite game company and its key franchises.

I love Zelda more than Leo-J loves MGS4.



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lanjiaona said:

For two years now analysts have been predicting the imminent demise of the Wii. They have become a bit quiet recently as it chalks up ever more amazing sales success. Yet there are a few reasons why what we are seeing now is the end of the boom.

  • Any bubble bursts just as it reaches its biggest size. And the Wii is now selling in massively unsustainable numbers. It just cannot go on.

Because what applies to fluid dynamics must also pertain to gaming sales. Its also fails to explain why the PS2 and DS bubbles never "burst".

  • The penetration of HDTVs has increased massively over the last two years. Thus cruelly exposing the Wii’s last generation graphics to far more people.

And yet the proliferation of HD cable, satellite, and BluRay lags behind significantly. People got HD because they had no choice when the bought a new TV.

  • The Xbox 360 is cheaper.

The XBox 360 Arcade is cheaper. Until you buy a hard drive. And a game. Then its more expensive again by about $100.

  • The Xbox 360 is a huge amount better than the Wii. It has far more games and vastly more good games. And it has Live, by far the best online gaming portal. Gradually the public will come round to understanding these realities.

Better is a subjective term, and currently the market finds waggle "better" than HD graphics and Live. Moreover, the Wii's  waggle will get substantially better in 2009 with MotionPlus, while the 360 will not be upgrading to HDPlus graphics.

  • The Wii has a very weak game library. The first party games, a few good third party games. Then lots of dross shovel ware. And game consoles are for playing games.

The library that currently exists for the 360 wasn't enough to vault it past the Wii. What is coming out in 2009 to make that library so much better?

 

  • Nintendo have now rolled out all their great and famous properties on the Wii. So they have very few places left to go for the stream of AAA titles needed to sustain a platform.

And yet they will find more. Punch Out, Icarus, Pikmin, FZero, Star Fox... not exactly tapped out yet, nor will they want for sequels.

  • The Wii is not making much money for many publishers so they are voting with their feet and allocating their resources to platforms that will make them money.

Source?

 

  • Most of the Wii customer base is the very casual “toy” market. They will be very fickle as they move onto the next “must have” trend. The Wii will become tired.

Rainmaker argument. Keep repeating it, and eventually it will be right. We are now entering year three of "its a fad!"

 

  • Money is getting a lot tighter as the world tips into recession. Casual frippery, like most Wii purchases, will be an early casualty.

But not the 360, which, despite the initial price tag, is still more costly. And if sales lag, Nintendo could drop the price by $50 without hesitation, and maybe as much as $100 if it were pressed hard enough.

 Most people likely to buy a Wii already have. In terms of market penetration Nintendo are now going to suffer from the law of diminishing returns.

And I suppose the underwear gnomes have taken to stealing Wii's from store shelves, because I still can't find one to save my life.

So there we have it. Plenty of reasons why the Wii must eventually face the inevitable. And because the boom has been so massive the collapse of sales will be equally dramatic. And when will this be? Let’s put it this way, we are experiencing the last big Christmas for the Wii.

 

So there we have it. Plenty of reasons why Bruceongames is phail.

 



I agree with some of those points, mainly the one about game quality.