If it doesn't, it most likely means that the economic crisis is MUCH worse than most are expecting.

In other words, even if you don't like the Wii you should want it to outsell the PS2. Isn't it great?

All console makers would take advantage of the console to the maximmum especially Nintendo since they are all in the market to make money. Nintendo didn't discontinue SNES right after N64 was released or N64 right after Gamecube was released or GBA right after DS was released. I'm not sure where you got the impression Nintendo doesn't like to take advantage of the console to the maximum.

 Except Nintendo never launches first, in fact most gens they launch later than their competitors

As it's been mentioned, NOBODY has maximized their consoles more than Nintendo. Back in the days of the Genesis, Nintendo could have easily dropped the SNES on us. They made us wait almost two years, while they upgraded the chips in the NES to make those games better.

When the PS1 was released, Nintendo waited quite some time to release the Gamecube, instead selling us the ram expansion for the N64 to up the game resolutions.

And again, as has been mentioned, the GBA has been supported for over a decade.

To say that Nintendo will be the first to jump the gun and put out a new system is to ignore their history. It's laughable, really.

Then will you please tell me the name of ONE Nintendo console which had a long lifespan like PS1 did. PS1 was out even when N64 was out, when Dreamcast was out,when Gamecube was out and PS1 outsold them all (take that Sony haters). PS1 was out even WHEN XBOX 360 was realised. PS1 was disconnected in 2006. That's 11 years long lifespan.You can't compare GameCube and PS1. Thats another generation. AND THE MAKE US WAITED TWO YEARS??? WOW. That's very long if you ignore the fact that Sony made us wait 6 years for PS2 and 6 years for PS3, and Microsoft made us wait 4 years for 360.

Manufacturer	Nintendo
Type	Video game console
Generation	Third generation (8-bit era)
Retail availability	JP July 15, 1983 US October 18, 1985 CA February 1986 EU September 1, 1986a[›] EU / AUS 1987a[›]
Discontinued	1995

 In the wake of ever decreasing sales and the lack of new software titles, Nintendo of America officially discontinued the NES by 1995. Despite this, Nintendo of Japan kept producing new Nintendo Famicom units up until September 2003.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_System

I would like to see Sony keep producing the PS 2 for 20 years like Nintendo did with the NES.

Manufacturer	Nintendo
Type	Video game console
Generation	Fourth generation (16-bit era)
Retail availability	JP November 21, 1990 NA August 1991[cn 1] EU April 11, 1992 AUS July 3, 1992

Nintendo of America ceased production of the SNES in 1999,^[35] about two years after releasing Kirby's Dream Land 3 (its last first-party game for the system) on November 27, 1997. In Japan, Nintendo continued production of the Super Famicom until September 2003

The SNES kept in production for 13 years that makes both Nintendo systems that were succesfull with longer lifespan then both Sony´s.

Now I am interested in how you are going to spin this.

I think some people that claim that Wii does not outsell the PS2 do not belive in its long life span, but seriously industry follows similar patterns it is the dominating console like NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2 that stays on the market forever, and the Wii will continue this trend.

PS3 fans can talk about 10 year life cycle and stuff like that but it's not SOny taht will determine the life span but the market, it will probably follow the steps of N64 and GC. Dominating console does sell for ages, the less succesful ones are quickly replaced by its successors regardless of previous plans made by their manufacturers, ( I bet Ninty thought that n64 will be as succesful as ps 1)

While I think it's likely that at a lower price and with the list of games growing PS3 will start going better and eventually sell more than 100million (but not before the last months of 2013 if Sony guesses all the right moves, most likely towards the end of 2014 if like natural it guesses most good moves but not each one), I'm persuaded Wii will sell more and has a very good chance to exceed PS2 sales, if it stays on the market long enough, it all depends on Nintendo plans on its life and how and when to launch Wii2 and if it has to coexist with Wii1, I think nothing else could stop it.
It's very simple: Sony can save PS3 doing the right moves, but Nintendo with Wii did almost always the best moves since the beginning.

vaio said: Snake said: Then will you please tell me the name of ONE Nintendo console which had a long lifespan like PS1 did. PS1 was out even when N64 was out, when Dreamcast was out,when Gamecube was out and PS1 outsold them all (take that Sony haters). PS1 was out even WHEN XBOX 360 was realised. PS1 was disconnected in 2006. That's 11 years long lifespan.You can't compare GameCube and PS1. Thats another generation. AND THE MAKE US WAITED TWO YEARS??? WOW. That's very long if you ignore the fact that Sony made us wait 6 years for PS2 and 6 years for PS3, and Microsoft made us wait 4 years for 360.   Nintendo Family Computer Manufacturer Nintendo Type Video game console Generation Third generation (8-bit era) Retail availability JP July 15, 1983 US October 18, 1985 CA February 1986 EU September 1, 1986a[›] EU / AUS 1987a[›] Discontinued 1995  In the wake of ever decreasing sales and the lack of new software titles, Nintendo of America officially discontinued the NES by 1995. Despite this, Nintendo of Japan kept producing new Nintendo Famicom units up until September 2003. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_System I would like to see Sony keep producing the PS 2 for 20 years like Nintendo did with the NES. Super Nintendo Entertainment System Manufacturer Nintendo Type Video game console Generation Fourth generation (16-bit era) Retail availability JP November 21, 1990 NA August 1991[cn 1] EU April 11, 1992 AUS July 3, 1992 Nintendo of America ceased production of the SNES in 1999,[35] about two years after releasing Kirby's Dream Land 3 (its last first-party game for the system) on November 27, 1997. In Japan, Nintendo continued production of the Super Famicom until September 2003 The SNES kept in production for 13 years that makes both Nintendo systems that were succesfull with longer lifespan then both Sony´s. Now I am interested in how you are going to spin this.

FIRST, if you look at my other post you will see i told NES and GameBoy are the only Nintendo consoles with long lifespan.

NES lasted 10 years (1985-1995) ONLY because it didn't have competition. If a consoles doesn't have a competition it can last over 100 years. PS1 had a competition against 7 CONSOLES (N64,Sega Saturn, Dreamcast,Xbox,GameCube,Xbox 360) and it had outsold them all. NES had a only 1 console to fight with.that's why it lasted that long.

Why didn't N64 lasted 10 years like NES?Because it had a bigger and stronger competition than NES. PS1 had a competition with the consoles which were 10 times better in graphics and multimedia (Xbox 360, GameCube... )

And how many SNES were sold in 2003? 10 maybe?

NES lasted as long as it did because it won the gen and every generation winning console has had a long life span since the Atari 2600.

Using the same rules you used to make a list of the PS' competition the NES faced Master System, Atari 7800, Turbo Graphics, Mega Drive, Neo Geo, 3D0, Saturn, and Playstation. Never mind the fact that there were two gen two systems that sold into the 90s and the NES was in fact on sale during gen 6. (nor does it take into account the other gen 3 systems such as PV-1000)

The N64 didn't last longer because it wasn't first, and with one notable exception (Intellivision) systems that don't win generations tend to go away quickly when the gen ends.

While I don't know how many NES were sold in 2003, I can tell you how many PS were sold in 2005 (a year you count as part of PS ten years) - 15k.