Well ,as I said this is all talking .We cant know how sales will evolve or we woulndt be entering this site becasue we would know everything .So saying the PS3 sales will be under the 360 ones or outselling those by so few numbers that not until 2011 it could overcome it has the same ground thay saying the PS3 will beat soundly the 360 and multiply its sales in the 3 markets and overcome it in months .Too much talking for so few proofs .

Common sense suggest a product that can sell well in 3 markets will overcome one that can only sell well in one of these 3 markets .Thats all I wanted to say .Others can think that the NA sales will be enough to keep the PS3 at bay worlwide or whatever they think .For me that sounds impossible ,but time will tell .

The flaw in the logic of "Common sense suggest a product that can sell well in 3 markets will overcome one that can only sell well in one of these 3 markets" is that PS3 isn't selling well in those same 2 markets the 360 is failing in.

In Japan, the 360 will be lucky to manage a final sale of 1 million, probably more around 700,000. But the PS3 isn't doing hot there either. It's doing sub-GC numbers. And lets keep in mind that the PS3 is cheaper there than anywhere else. Big releases don't really sell too much, and the only gives the system a spike for a few weeks in sales, and then goes back down. It seems like last gen, Japan has chosen their one favorite console, and like last gen, the remaining two are guranteed mediocrity(GC) or worse(Xbox).

In Europe, there is still a 2 million gap between the 360 and PS3. And while the PS3 is outselling the 360 there right now, according to this sites numbers the PS3 has only started to outsell the 360 significantly in a little over the last month or so. This is probably influenced by the release of the Starter Pack, and speculation of a price drop for the 360 as well as news of hardware failure. Although I could see the PS3 being the ultimate leader in sales week to week there, I think the gap will narrow to a few thousand again. And that 2 million will take some time to overcome. Europe is more of a question mark, since the PS3 can strongly recover, but so can the 360 to a degree. I see the PS3 beating out 360 there eventually, but not any time soon, and not by a large margin. However it seems that Wii will be the unquestionable leader there as well.

In America, I just can't see the PS3 ever outselling the 360, period. Although America is the one market that seems to allow for a comeback, making all systems a strong contender, I don't see the PS3 ever making up that huge difference in sales with the 360. Plus, this is the strongest market for the 360. While the PS3 has been outselling it here for the last month or so, that was amid speculation of a price drop for the 360 and news of the hardware failure coming out combined with significant price drop for the PS3. Also, over the last month PS3 sales have been decreasing week to week after the price drop. I don't think we'll really be able see which one America really prefers until November or so, when the effects of the price drops have stabilized, Halo 3 is out and the 80GB pack is commonly available. Still, I think America will continue to prefer the 360 over the PS3, and the gap will only widen as time goes by.

I think it will be a close race to number 2, but I feel that anyone predicting a PS3 resurgance taking over the 360 in the next year are really ignoring the fact that only recently has PS3 been doing comparatively better than the 360, and that was at a period that can probably seen as the 360's worst (RRoD issues, price drop speculation after 2 years without one) and coming off better news for the PS3 (Starter pack and $100 price drop). Anyway, that's how I look at it.

well said white devil.... attack of the show basically spent part of one of the segments tonight saying just as much in relation to your american market observation. people want to play on a system their friends have, and that they have their big games on. last gen madden was best on ps2, first online games on ps2. this time the 360 has the better graphics for now, and the better online network which people seem to be willing to pay for. the ps3 has an uphill fight.

Moronic bs ehh? When PS announced the price of the ps3, everyone knew it was going to be a huge problem, every gaming site admitted it.

Just like microsoft making a high failing product is a huge mistake. Sony made the mistake of making players have the blueray, thus making it so expensive and causing downward sales. If sony had made it optional (which they wouldnt only and only because they want to win the format wars) and decreased the cost, we could see alot more ps3 sellings (ive heard thousands of times if only ps3 was 399 it would sell where here ya go).

In all im saying that microsoft made the mistake of high failure rate product, and sony made the mistake of a highpriced ps3 that many people wont get because of the high price. Both are mistakes and both companys are trying to work them out.

Very well put white devil.

My gut told me that Japan is not as big an impact on Worldwide sales as the US or (to a lesser extent) Europe.  So I did some number crunching of the sales of the four consoles (PS2, PS3, Wii and XB360) and confirmed my suspicions.  Japan accounts for 20.7% LTD, America 42.5% LTD and PAL 36.7% LTD. 

When I expanded the range to include the Xbox and GC, the numbers came to Japan 18.02% LTD, America 47.64% and PAL 34.34%.

The Fiscal numbers were fairly close to LTD.  But what truly surprised me was looking at the Fiscal for each region at the individual console level.  Rather than going into an analysis here, I think I'll start a new thread.  But I don't believe Japan can be counted on for the PS3 to overtake the XB360.

Note, I left the handhelds out of the equation because I consider that a different class. Besides, handheld sales don't directly affect PS3 sales vs XB360 or similiar comparisions.

I would definately have to say the Wii is the next PS2.  As for the number 2 spot.  Realistically, I don't see the PS3 passing the xbox even by 2009, if at all.  If they catch them, don't expect it to be at the earliest 2010.  Also, I don't like either one of them. So it's coming from a non partisan view (politically speaking).  Those of you who say that the Xbox doesn't have a killer line up this year is sadly mistaken, and this is coming from a nintendo fanboy.  Their three titles with push alot of systems, along with their impressive price drop on the premium system, which I heard was sold out at my local best buy.  Anyways, due to the fact I think sales will pick up in Japan for the PS3.  In the end Nintendo owns all.  Especially when big companies start moving all of their energy to the wii,(which has already begun) which includes titles such as FF.  I think PS will be smart and bring us a console with downgrades at a 250-300 tag sometime in 2008.  If they don't, well MS will do very well.

I may have put more thought into this than most others that posted their predictions.  As for research, I doubt most posters research or even try to do some half-way decent analysis when projecting sales numbers - it's guess-work, at best.  Have you challenged someone's numbers that shared your opinion of the Wii, or does YOUR fanboy handbook prohibit that?

LOL!  I like your sarcasm.

Is that the tortilla chip shaped NGage or the tostada shaped one?