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NJ5 on 11 December 2008
FishyJoe said:
The PS3 numbers aren't the worst news for Sony. The really bad part is that both PSP and PS2 sales are way down. Those are products that shouldn't be affected by the economy.

They're also the cash cows of the gaming division.

 



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Hyruken on 11 December 2008
darthdevidem01 said:
Hyruken said:
darthdevidem01 said:
kowenicki said:
PS3 is dying in the States. It really is.

Yes thats what people said a year and a half ago as well.....then we all know what happened.

another price drop n the same thing will take place....so please to save your credibility in the future don't make rash judgements.

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@leo-j

I was joking....nothing personal

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@shanbcn

oh but but MS never lies....n always means SOLD TO CONSUMERs but T3H SONY = BAD & always LIE about Sales!

FACT -- GEOW 2 was overtracked.

 

Sorry but the PS3 fanboys are being the deluded ones. Again in your msg you highlight the problem the "wait till xyz" theory. The fact is that the PS3 is about to be further away then it ever has been to either of the teo consoles. Were waiting for the days where what you say comes true and 3 years later people are still waiting. Just accept it the PS3 is not a PS1, it is not a PS2. It is not succesful like those consoles, it is this generations Gamecube or Dreamcast. Sales were DOWN from last year and that is with a PS3 price cut in that 12 months...Sorry bud but you need facts to back up those claims and even without th 360 price cut the PS3 clawed back 1m sales in a year. That would of taken 6 years just to get on level terms....That gap is now over 7m and will probably be 8m by the end of the month. At that ratio before the price cut would take 8 years. Not going to happen. Time to let go and move on.

 

You said DYING

In my post I never mentionsed PS3 would pass 360 or beat anything. I just said....another price drop n then PS3 will look like it isn't dying.

you said PS3 is dying

FACT - PS3 is not dying.

 

 

 I never said dying....

However it depends on what you would define as dying? To me that would mean going backwards i.e not selling as much as you used to. Which on this evidence would say it is going backwards. To me the fact nearly 3m people bought a console that was not a PS3 shows it is dying really. That is a lot of people who didn't buy the Sony brand. If there were people out there who wanted a PS3 would it really be that low considering it is cheaper then last year?



piggychan on 11 December 2008

I'm stunned at Nintendo's success and its good to see an old timer back on top again  :P

wow what a difference in sales here

Call of Duty: World at War
X360 Activision 1,627,945


Call of Duty: World at War
PS3 Activision 671,615



Aiemond on 11 December 2008
darthdevidem01 said:
Hyruken said:
darthdevidem01 said:
kowenicki said:
PS3 is dying in the States. It really is.

Yes thats what people said a year and a half ago as well.....then we all know what happened.

another price drop n the same thing will take place....so please to save your credibility in the future don't make rash judgements.

_____

@leo-j

I was joking....nothing personal

_____

@shanbcn

oh but but MS never lies....n always means SOLD TO CONSUMERs but T3H SONY = BAD & always LIE about Sales!

FACT -- GEOW 2 was overtracked.

 

Sorry but the PS3 fanboys are being the deluded ones. Again in your msg you highlight the problem the "wait till xyz" theory. The fact is that the PS3 is about to be further away then it ever has been to either of the teo consoles. Were waiting for the days where what you say comes true and 3 years later people are still waiting. Just accept it the PS3 is not a PS1, it is not a PS2. It is not succesful like those consoles, it is this generations Gamecube or Dreamcast. Sales were DOWN from last year and that is with a PS3 price cut in that 12 months...Sorry bud but you need facts to back up those claims and even without th 360 price cut the PS3 clawed back 1m sales in a year. That would of taken 6 years just to get on level terms....That gap is now over 7m and will probably be 8m by the end of the month. At that ratio before the price cut would take 8 years. Not going to happen. Time to let go and move on.

 

You said DYING

In my post I never mentionsed PS3 would pass 360 or beat anything. I just said....another price drop n then PS3 will look like it isn't dying.

you said PS3 is dying

FACT - PS3 is not dying.

 

How can they afford a price drop when they just cut 16,000 jobs and are restructuring their entire company?

 



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frybread on 11 December 2008

I just want to say whats up to the 2 million new Wii owners. Enjoy the system and the games folks



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darthdevidem01 on 11 December 2008
Khuutra said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Hyruken said:
darthdevidem01 said:
kowenicki said:
PS3 is dying in the States. It really is.

Yes thats what people said a year and a half ago as well.....then we all know what happened.

another price drop n the same thing will take place....so please to save your credibility in the future don't make rash judgements.

_____

@leo-j

I was joking....nothing personal

_____

@shanbcn

oh but but MS never lies....n always means SOLD TO CONSUMERs but T3H SONY = BAD & always LIE about Sales!

FACT -- GEOW 2 was overtracked.

 

Sorry but the PS3 fanboys are being the deluded ones. Again in your msg you highlight the problem the "wait till xyz" theory. The fact is that the PS3 is about to be further away then it ever has been to either of the teo consoles. Were waiting for the days where what you say comes true and 3 years later people are still waiting. Just accept it the PS3 is not a PS1, it is not a PS2. It is not succesful like those consoles, it is this generations Gamecube or Dreamcast. Sales were DOWN from last year and that is with a PS3 price cut in that 12 months...Sorry bud but you need facts to back up those claims and even without th 360 price cut the PS3 clawed back 1m sales in a year. That would of taken 6 years just to get on level terms....That gap is now over 7m and will probably be 8m by the end of the month. At that ratio before the price cut would take 8 years. Not going to happen. Time to let go and move on.

 

You said DYING

In my post I never mentionsed PS3 would pass 360 or beat anything. I just said....another price drop n then PS3 will look like it isn't dying.

you said PS3 is dying

FACT - PS3 is not dying.

 

Chill out, buddy

You're a cool cat, don't want people to say you're having a meltdown

Let's stop the fighting before it starts

there won't be meltdowns as numbers are completely in line with Vg Chartz with the exception of wii.

So nothing has come striking out TBH.

Except for GEOW 2 overtracking & ofcourse the big one....WIIIIIIII!

 



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Oyvoyvoyv on 11 December 2008
Aj_habfan said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:

Wii Music "undertracked" by 33% (or NPD was 50% higher). That's a lot.

NPD was 32% higher on MKWii

The rest is within 20%, and some is spot on. Very good indeed.

 

Still, this shows that VGChartz is biased against Wii - no doubt about it!

 

Did you purposely ignore the biggest difference?

 

*Looks again*

 

Gears 2 - NPD 1.56M, VGC 2.26M

I misread last time (thought it was 1.96M). My bad

So Gears 2: 30% lower on NPD (VGC was 45% higher).

CoD 5 360 is 15% off (high side)

Wii Fit is 15% off (high side)

CoD 5 Ps3 is 15% off (high side)

World Tour is off by... OMG! You're right. VGC *0.9 = 194K. NPD = 475K. They're 2.4 times larger on it! HUGE.

Resistance is less than 10% off, so is L4D.

 

You're right, I missed Gears and World Tour.

 

Also, Wii Music is off by more. Forgot *0.9, so 173K vs 297K is 71% higher on NPD.



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DMeisterJ on 11 December 2008

Yessh.

PS2 showing it's age.

PSP showing that it needs software and/or a price cut (it's been 170 for a while).

PS3 showing 400 bucks is not to be thrown around lightly in this economy.



leo-j on 11 December 2008

Wow the playstation brand has never been this bad...



 

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Sullla on 11 December 2008

NPD and VGChartz lined up really well overall this month, especially in software. Wii hardware is the obvious one that stands out, yet by percentage VGChartz actually isn't that far off. (Wii hardware quantity is so gigantic, even a 400k disparity is only about 25% off. Not great, but not ridiculous either.)

I hope this lays to rest the claims that VGC hates the HD consoles and is biased pro-Wii.

Man, the rest of the Internet (who don't watch weekly sales as we do) is going to go insane over this result.



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End of 2008 totals: Wii 42m, 360 24m, PS3 18.5m (made Jan. 4, 2008)