We agree on somthing at long last yes, We got there in the end, lol

Shenmue is the ONLY game IF it was on ps3 that would persuade me to go and buy my 2nd hand ps3 sooner than i intend on doing so.

Personally, as far as exclusives go for the first quarter of 2009. I'll be buying K2 day one and I'll say right now that I'd rather own this one game then all the other Quarter one 2009 games put together. I'll also buy infamous. SO4 is a possibility. RTS are for pc, and it's a well known fact they handle like shit on consoles so Halo Wars is out of the question. Even if Ninja Blade comes out quarter 1 I'd put my money on it being mediocre at best. Other then that, all the games I want are multiplat (re5 here I come!). So for me, PS3 wins. Overall, I'm sure I'll be buying a lot of games for both systems next year.

K2 will be mediocre at best... no split screen or Coop = not a complete shooter. Thats the best when a friend comes over to play games and has to sit there and wait his turn. Shooters like that are meant to be played with others. Playing only online is not the same as playing in someones living room. That game looked like it could have been a lot more.

SO4 is going to rock... That is all we need to know that the 360 has the better lineup.

Killzone 2, inFamous, potentially White Knight Chronicles, Yakuza 3 (region free PS3), WarDevil fell off my radar but I guess that's there too and some others I haven't mentioned. I doubt SO4, an RTS, some DLC and an unproven title from an unproven developer can trump that

@BTFeather55:

Wow, just wow. I've never seen anyone litterally get an orgasm over IGN.
You must be totally blind due to some strange loyalty or not been following them for a while because they have made significant mistakes lately:

-Shaun White: "oh, the HD version is so much better" later: Wii gets higher score
-"Square Enix must learn to use Unreal 3 cause Infinte Undiscovery sucks" while IU isn't made with UE3.
-They gave a 2 for Sega Soccer Manger. Reason: You don't play soccer *facepalm*
-A 10 for GTAIV. Granted they weren't the only one, but while a good game, everyone that wasn't caught up in the hype wouldn't have given it a 10.
-EXACTLY the same score for Resistance and Gears? Sure.

And we can continue. IGN is really losing it lately.

Furthermore you're clearly trolling, as you can give tons of bad things about a very promising Wii RPG line-up with stupid remarks like: "I want my new gen games to be new gen".

Posting numerous review scores (strangely from different sources) for FF doesn't change anything about the fact that it isn't the ONLY great thing coming for JRPG fans. It definitely been a consistently high quality series, but XII wasn't that good and SE hasn't been on a roll lately. Not to say FF13 won't be good, cause I'm definitely looking forward to it. But if you prefer a short trailer of a game over 7 upcoming Wii JRPGs you're not really an RPG fan.

"@BTFeather55:

Wow, just wow. I've never seen anyone litterally get an orgasm over IGN.
You must be totally blind due to some strange loyalty or not been following them for a while because they have made significant mistakes lately:"

Or, I've been following them long enough to know where they are coming from and that they've been consistent in giving the games that deserved them the good scores that they have deserved over the years.


"-Shaun White: "oh, the HD version is so much better" later: Wii gets higher score"

I guess the boogie board gave it an advantage.


-"Square Enix must learn to use Unreal 3 cause Infinte Undiscovery sucks" while IU isn't made with UE3."

Well, apparently whatever engine it was running, it apparently was not doing a good job at it.


"-They gave a 2 for Sega Soccer Manger. Reason: You don't play soccer *facepalm*"

Yeah, well in the era of EA's NCAA games, I'd be inclined to give Jeff Sagarin's Hoops a 2.0 too because you don't play basketball in it.

-A 10 for GTAIV. Granted they weren't the only one, but while a good game, everyone that wasn't caught up in the hype wouldn't have given it a 10.
-EXACTLY the same score for Resistance and Gears? Sure."

I guess these last two are the crux of the matter. I'm sory that GTA IV was better than any other game that came out this gen prior to its release and it remained so until MGS4 was released. And yeah, taking into account what Epic was promising with Gears 2: a better story than MGS which turned out to be a pipe dream, a game two times as big as the first one which was going to be the true 10 of this gen, I'm glad that IGN gave the game its proper do. It wasn't much of an improvement over the first in any fashion and certainly not up to MGS and GTA 4 quality. On the other hand, the PS3 staff must have thought Resistance 2 was a better effort from Insomniac than last year's R & C Future which they gave a 9.4 last year, and they decided to give award it accordingly. From all the great things I've heard about Little Big Planet, I would be more concerned about Gears 2 getting as a high a score as that one at IGN and much better sales when Game Rankings bears out the fact that LBP is actually better.

"And we can continue. IGN is really losing it lately."

Doesn't really seem like it to me.

"Furthermore you're clearly trolling, as you can give tons of bad things about a very promising Wii RPG line-up with stupid remarks like: "I want my new gen games to be new gen"."

No, it's called defending my positions there is a difference.

"Posting numerous review scores (strangely from different sources) for FF doesn't change anything about the fact that it isn't the ONLY great thing coming for JRPG fans."

As usual in almost all gens, FFXIII PS3 will be the first great and genre defining rpg of this gen.

"It definitely been a consistently high quality series, but XII wasn't that good and SE hasn't been on a roll lately."

I thought I already pointed out that Dave Halverson's Play magazine gave FFXII a 10 and IGN gave it a 9.5. Play also listed it in the top 5 in their Top 25 jrpgs of all time a couple of years ago and Nick Des Barres and the boys have been the masters of determining JRPG quality in this country since the days of Diehard Gamefan. Plus, Famitsu gave FFXII one of their ultra rare perfect scores.


"Not to say FF13 won't be good, cause I'm definitely looking forward to it. But if you prefer a short trailer of a game over 7 upcoming Wii JRPGs you're not really an RPG fan."

Square's track record for bringing the quality over about twenty years of time is what means more to mean than 7 rpgs from mainly yet to be proven developers not some short trailer albeit the heroine in it is cute.

You know Square and Final Fantasy are the video game and jrpg equivalent of Ric Flair. Ric Flair climbed that mountain 16 times over a 30 year period, man, and as he always said, "Diamonds are forever, and so is Final Fantasy."

BTfeather55 i think you look at the review too much, especially since IGN has been really unprofessional lately looking at reviews of some of their titles. If a game does not get 8.5 or 9.0 it does not mean that its not a great title, people should develop some sort of their own taste, and not look solely on Reviewers who usually have little to do with good journalism and more to do with fanboyism (wii music ign review anyone?)

Anyway at the moment Wii Exclusives look great for 2009 especially RPG wise, and hopefully there will be more.

Sop basically...if killzone sucks...the PS3 is doomed?

Not likely

"BTfeather55 i think you look at the review too much, especially since IGN has been really unprofessional lately looking at reviews of some of their titles. If a game does not get 8.5 or 9.0 it does not mean that its not a great title, people should develop some sort of their own taste, and not look solely on Reviewers who usually have little to do with good journalism and more to do with fanboyism (wii music ign review anyone?)

Anyway at the moment Wii Exclusives look great for 2009 especially RPG wise, and hopefully there will be more."

Yeah, and maybe Terry Taylor was better than Flair even though he never held the NWA, WCW, or WWF title one time and Flair had them 16 times.

I'm sure someone will ask why I'm talking about wrestling. It is called using metaphors to prove a point for those that would like to know.

Anyway, Flair had another saying, "To be the man, you've got to beat the man." The 360 had quite a few chances this year to come up with a Final Fantasy quality jrpg, and they all failed to get FF type review scores. So, I guess next year is the Wii's turn to try and do the same thing. So how many of those titles do you really predict will wind up beating the man (ie. obtaining Final Fantasy type review scores)?

I used to like Ric Flair, then i saw his shoot interview where he basically shot everybody down, especially Psycho Sid aka Sid Justice aka the man who rules the world aka...... you get the picture lol, screw flair.

Anyway, i always thought that Ted Dibiase was far better than Flair on the mic.