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Killzone3 on 02 August 2007

This might help the PS3, the GTA/Halo would have been a monster. Now its only loyal xbox owners getting the 360 for their one big game.

Wiis line up is super weak but its not like it matters all that much at the current price points of the 3 machines.



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FishyJoe on 02 August 2007
leo-j said:

So I guess you like bratz, kim possible, and hannah montana :D


No I don't, but I don't denigrate people who do like them.



steven787 on 02 August 2007
Diomedes1976 said:
We are confounding things ....I said the PS3 and 360 lineups are far better than the WIi one .NOT that the WIi one had less selling power .As some point ,Mario and Wii Fit may have more selling power than some of the brilliant games of the other plattforms .

So lets not confound .....sales wise the Wii can have a terrific lineup to pile lots of customers ,kiddies ,grannies ,girls ,long time retirees ,Mario fans ...fat people with Wii Fit ...etc etc

But quality-wise the lineup of both the 360 and the PS3 is light years ahead .


I agree.  Some people like films and most people like movies.  Saving Private Ryan is a better film, but Pirates of the Carribean beats it at the box office.

The best games of the past generation sold well (some include: Final Fantasy, Mario, GoW, Zelda)  But all were beaten by GTA.  GTA3 and the spinoffs are fun, but it is unpolished, trashy, glitchy, and ugly.  But the contraversy and fun of it all made it very very successful.

I hate to say it, but games sell not because of quality, controls, or even visuals.  It comes from buzz.  Last gen the fun games with the mainstream buzz were Grand Theft Auto games.  This year it is Wii stuff. 

 Timeline for ultra-success

Some type of interest is generated > gamers get into it > reaches the mainstream media > others buy into it > more media coverage > more buyers > console or software price drops allow late adopters to buy the game months and years into the games life.

This is what happened with SMB1, the 90's fighting games (SFII and MK, which don't chart too high because they were on so many consoles with so many remakes/sequals), GTAIII, and Halo



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

jman8 on 02 August 2007
OriGin said:
*sigh*

This is how threads have sounded for such a long time, and people making posts in them are CONTINUALLY being proven wrong.

Sorry but 'sales potential' wise the Wii has the strongest lineup for the rest of this year, it has absolute quality titles backed up with a fuck ton of casual games, plus it is riding on the top of its wave STILL. If anyone thinks the Wii isn't going to murder this Christmas anymore then they are mistaken.

The games that are coming out for PS3 and Xbox 360 all only cater for a very closed demographic. Apart from Guitar Hero and Singstar it is all for hardcore gamers and it's not going to cut it. Guitar Hero 3 is coming to Wii also and Singstar is coming out on a console that is far to expensive to appeal to 'non-gamers'.

I can't believe how little so many people in this thread understand why sales are the way they are and that they can't see how much Nintendo is going to freakin OWN this christmas.

Whoa whoa! holy bombshell, batman! When was this announced?

I can't believe a lot of you Wii fans are totally underestimating GH3 and Rock Band. Have you all seen the sales numbers on this very site for GH2 and 80s?

Also, a lot of you failed to mention Assassin's Creed, which is easily one of the most anticipated games on the PS360.

I'm not gonna go so far as to say either the 360 or PS3 will outsell the Wii this holiday season. Hell, I didn't think that would happen a week ago when I thought GTA was coming out this year. But both the PS3 and 360 have huge lineups that are diverse and high profile.

 Edit: Just to clarify, IGN definitely says Haze and Unreal Tournament III are coming only to PS3 this Fall: http://ps3.ign.com/index/release.html



My Top 5:

Shadow of the Colossus, Metal Gear Solid 3, Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, Chrono Trigger

My 2 nex-gen systems: PS3 and Wii

Prediction Aug '08: We see the PSP2 released fall '09. Graphically, it's basically the same as the current system. UMD drive ditched and replaced by 4-8gb on board flash memory. Other upgrades: 2nd analog nub, touchscreen, blutooth, motion sensor. Design: Flip-style or slider. Size: Think Iphone. Cost: $199. Will be profitable on day 1.

FishyJoe on 02 August 2007
jman8 said:

Whoa whoa! holy bombshell, batman! When was this announced?

I can't believe a lot of you Wii fans are totally underestimating GH3 and Rock Band. Have you all seen the sales numbers on this very site for GH2 and 80s?

 


 Um, GH3 is coming to Wii.



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Sqrl on 02 August 2007
jman8 said:
OriGin said:
*sigh*

This is how threads have sounded for such a long time, and people making posts in them are CONTINUALLY being proven wrong.

Sorry but 'sales potential' wise the Wii has the strongest lineup for the rest of this year, it has absolute quality titles backed up with a fuck ton of casual games, plus it is riding on the top of its wave STILL. If anyone thinks the Wii isn't going to murder this Christmas anymore then they are mistaken.

The games that are coming out for PS3 and Xbox 360 all only cater for a very closed demographic. Apart from Guitar Hero and Singstar it is all for hardcore gamers and it's not going to cut it. Guitar Hero 3 is coming to Wii also and Singstar is coming out on a console that is far to expensive to appeal to 'non-gamers'.

I can't believe how little so many people in this thread understand why sales are the way they are and that they can't see how much Nintendo is going to freakin OWN this christmas.

Whoa whoa! holy bombshell, batman! When was this announced?

I can't believe a lot of you Wii fans are totally underestimating GH3 and Rock Band. Have you all seen the sales numbers on this very site for GH2 and 80s?

Also, a lot of you failed to mention Assassin's Creed, which is easily one of the most anticipated games on the PC.

I'm not gonna go so far as to say either the 360 or PS3 will outsell the Wii this holiday season. Hell, I didn't think that would happen a week ago when I thought GTA was coming out this year. But both the PS3 and 360 have huge lineups that are diverse and high profile.

Edit: Just to clarify, IGN definitely says Haze and Unreal Tournament III are coming only to PS3 this Fall: http://ps3.ign.com/index/release.html


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Killzone3 on 02 August 2007
carlos710 said:
Diomedes1976 said:


Quality wise the wii has the best lineup for me with the ps3 being clearly the worst.

But i guess everything you like is what everyone will like, right ?


 Quality wise wiis line up is a distant 5th, its worse then DS or PSP



FishyJoe on 02 August 2007
Killzone3 said:
carlos710 said:
Diomedes1976 said:


Quality wise the wii has the best lineup for me with the ps3 being clearly the worst.

But i guess everything you like is what everyone will like, right ?


Quality wise wiis line up is a distant 5th, its worse then DS or PSP


That's your opinion, not a statement of fact. You should clarify. Anyways, arguing completely subjective topics get us nowhere fast.



melbye on 02 August 2007

Seriously Super Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros Brawl will outsell and outscore everything else on reviews this christmas-season



carlos710 on 02 August 2007
Killzone3 said:
carlos710 said:
Diomedes1976 said:


Quality wise the wii has the best lineup for me with the ps3 being clearly the worst.

But i guess everything you like is what everyone will like, right ?


Quality wise ps3s line up is a distant 5th, its worse then DS or PSP


 I agree. Quality Wise the ps3 is a distant 5th for me as well.



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