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Riachu on 26 November 2008

I can imagine it. A Zelda game in a Sci-Fi setting and a deeper and richer story than previous games in the series.



 

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LordTheNightKnight on 26 November 2008
Riachu said:
I can imagine it. A Zelda game in a Sci-Fi setting and a deeper and richer story than previous games in the series.

 

That would piss so many fans off, even if it sold millions.

But Miyamoto did suggest a Terminator-like story to justify using Zelda with the zapper. He got voted down by the development team.



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Riachu on 26 November 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
Riachu said:
I can imagine it. A Zelda game in a Sci-Fi setting and a deeper and richer story than previous games in the series.

 

That would piss so many fans off, even if it sold millions.

But Miyamoto did suggest a Terminator-like story to justify using Zelda with the zapper. He got voted down by the development team.

Fans always say they want something different from the norm yet when they get it, they complain like children

 



 

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LordTheNightKnight on 26 November 2008
Riachu said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Riachu said:
I can imagine it. A Zelda game in a Sci-Fi setting and a deeper and richer story than previous games in the series.

 

That would piss so many fans off, even if it sold millions.

But Miyamoto did suggest a Terminator-like story to justify using Zelda with the zapper. He got voted down by the development team.

Fans always say they want something different from the norm yet when they get it, they complain like children

 

 

Don't rehash Zelda!

Why did you change the artwork! We want the old style!

Why the old style? The new artwork was great!



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MaxwellGT2000 on 26 November 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Khuutra said:
All right, I guess you don't see it then, but trust me that it is SUPER ironic.

Also, if you don't think Ocarina of Time did anything except move LttP into 3-D, I suggest downloading this interview and reading it:

http://www.thehylia.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1227242511&archive=&start_from=&ucat=26&

 

More then half the game was ripped from LttP... from the final fight with Ganon 1 to throwing bombs in the mouth of the fire temple boss 2 to collecting the sages medalions 3, to the layout of the game 4, really man it was a move of the series into 3D more then reinventing it.  They get the cred for doing it and doing it perfectly I might add where other 2D series died when moving into 3D and making a targeting system that actually worked and has now been copied and/or has been tried to improved upon and most fail, the simple fact is it really didn't reinvent the Zelda wheel just showed how it should be done in 3D.

 

1. That was only the first part, and in LttP, that was with Aganim, which was really Ganon, but not the final battle.

2. That was the Dodongo Cave, and that was from the first game, so that's a series staple.

3. Wrong. It was collecting three things before the next act of the game. Simply collecting things is aother series staple.

4. Not really. There was no Lon-Lon Ranch. Hyrule Castle was in the center, not the top. The desert was southwest, not west. Lake Hylia was southeast, not south. Kokariko village was west, not northeast. And as for other locations, they were from the first two game.

 

You realize my post was about how OoT did not reformulate Zelda like LttP did right?  I mean come on dude...

I know it wasn't the final battle with Ganon but it was the same battle you had twice in LttP... and ended up being in the final battle of OoT.

I know it's from the first game it's just a point.

Uhm you did play LttP right?  I mean the crystals that were protected by the maidens that were raplaced by the sages.  And yes collecting those medalions which were lifting from LttP into OoT as well.

And I mean layout as in general... not literal, there is a Kokariko villiage, there is a Hyrule Castle, there is a desert, there is a Lake Hylia... and it repeats many many times...



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Khuutra on 27 November 2008

But Link to the Past didn't reformulate Zelda! And if it did, Ocarina of Time did so in much more meaningful ways.



pearljammer on 27 November 2008

That's foolish. The Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass both have already surpassed OoT, silly director.



ilovetogame on 27 November 2008

while i agree lttp perfected 2D zelda, with an epic adventure series like zelda 3 dimensions is where the series truly belongs. about a year ago i went back to play lttp and it was very plain how much OoT advanced the series. no denying lttp is as good as it gets for an adventure game in 2D. but the transition to 3D with OoT was incredible (just like with mario 64). and while ocarina of time didn't do 3D perfect it did the transition incredibly well and advanced the series greatly and it is definitely the best.

but a new best zelda is definitely possible with a fresh new feeling to the controls and an advanced story line, larger scope, and greater difficulty.



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ClaudeLv250 on 27 November 2008
Khuutra said:
But Link to the Past didn't reformulate Zelda! And if it did, Ocarina of Time did so in much more meaningful ways.

Yes it did. LttP started the Three Dungeons -> Master Sword -> Dual World -> Advanced Dungeons formula.

Wind Waker and Twilight Princess played around with this formula but OoT lifted it right out of LttP and didn't change a thing.

 



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Khuutra on 27 November 2008
ClaudeLv250 said:
Khuutra said:
But Link to the Past didn't reformulate Zelda! And if it did, Ocarina of Time did so in much more meaningful ways.

Yes it did. LttP started the Three Dungeons -> Master Sword -> Dual World -> Advanced Dungeons formula.

Wind Waker and Twilight Princess played around with this formula but OoT lifted it right out of LttP and didn't change a thing.

 

But... but that isn't even a significant formula! It's a theme. A formula would be "descend into the dungeon and acquire an item which allows you to complete puzzles in that dungeon".

LoZ established the series formulae. What LttP did was establish several tropes used in other games.