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SaviorX on 26 November 2008
Dryden said:
BKK2 said:
Wikipedia article is wrong, Saturn didn't even ship 10m. Master System was second best selling Sega console with 13m.

Problem with the Wikipedia entry is that the footnote for the 17m sold, if you actually follow that link, is a redirect to GamePro, where it is noted in the source article that the Saturn only sold 9.5m.

http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/111822/the-10-worst-selling-consoles-of-all-time/

Re-reading Wikipedia's console entries for fifth gen ... there are A LOT of things wrong with it. But the Saturn sales are the most glaring. Saturn didn't sell 17m -- not even close!

 

 Then I guess with those numbers, this achievement for the PS3 has been celebrated almost a year late.



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Gilgamesh on 26 November 2008

Here's the list, not sure how accurate it is.

Manufacturer   Platform   Released   sm=n Units sold  
Sony PlayStation 2 2000 140 million[1]
Nintendo Game Boy and Game Boy Color[2] 1989 and 1998 118.69 million[3]
Sony PlayStation 1994 102.49 million[4]
Nintendo Nintendo DS 2004 84.33 million[5][3]
Nintendo Game Boy Advance 2001 81.36 million[5]
Nintendo Nintendo Entertainment System 1983 61.91 million[3]
Nintendo Super Nintendo Entertainment System 1990 49.1 million[6][3][7]
Sony PlayStation Portable 2004 41 million[8]
Nintendo Wii 2006 34.55 million[5][3]
Nintendo Nintendo 64 1996 32.93 million[3]
Atari Atari 2600 1977 30 million[9]
Sega Mega Drive/Genesis 1988 29 million[10]
Microsoft Xbox 2001 24 million[11][12]
Microsoft Xbox 360 2005 22 million[13]
Nintendo GameCube 2001 21.74 million[3][14]
Sega Saturn 1994 17 million[15]
Sony PlayStation 3 2006 16.84 million[16]
Sega Master System 1986 13 million[17][18]
Sega Game Gear 1990 11 million[19]
Sega Dreamcast 1998 10.6 million[20][17]
NEC TurboGrafx-16 1987 10 million[20]
Coleco ColecoVision 1982 6 million[21]
Sega Mega-CD 1991 6 million[20]
Mattel Intellivision 1980 3 million[22][23][24]
Nokia N-Gage 2003 3 million[19]
Panasonic 3DO Interactive Multiplayer 1993 2 million[20]
SNK Neo Geo Pocket and Neo Geo Pocket Color 1998 and 1999 2 million[19]
NEC TurboExpress 1990 1.5 million[19]
Sega Nomad 1995 1 million[25]


colonelstubbs on 26 November 2008

Congrats PS3! You passed a console in sales!



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Tbone on 26 November 2008

Great job ps3, lol.



 

MontanaHatchet on 26 November 2008
The_God_of_War said:
Chrizum said:
The_God_of_War said:
I think the PS3 will outsell every console aside from the PS2 and Wii when it's shelf life has finished. But that's a looooong way in the future.

Do you realize the PS1 has sold 103 million units? For the PS3 to outsell it is impossible. I don't mean unlikely, I mean impossible.

But hasn't the PS3 sold more in it's first 2 years than the PS1 did? That's what I've heard anyway.

 

The Playstation started out incredibly slow, but quickly picked up with the releases of games such as Tekken 2 and Final Fantasy VII. The Playstation 3 won't have that same benefit. Anywho, the article is completely inaccurate, and the PS3 passed the Saturn some time in early 2008.

 



 

 

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hotrodx on 26 November 2008

Worldwide, the PS3 has passed the Saturn maybe long ago. But then again the Saturn never had any success outside Japan.

It will take some more time for the PS3 to outsell the Saturn in Japan, where it had modest success.



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Dryden on 26 November 2008

Looks like the footnotes from that page lead to the book "Invisible Engines: How Software Platforms Drive Innovation and Transform Industries" for the 17m figure.

http://www.26econ.com/pdf/InvisibleEngines.pdf

So I downloaded the book from MIT press, and then find that the book got its 17m figure from a Dec 2000 Cahners In-Stat report at the time of the original X-Box's debut. A copy of the Cahners In-Stat report in .pdf form costs $2,495.

http://www.mindbranch.com/catalog/print_product_page.jsp?code=R97-575

Screw that! GamePro says the Saturn sold 9.5M, I'll trust GamePro! :p

http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/111822/the-10-worst-selling-consoles-of-all-time/

FWIW, the Invisible Engines book also notes the original PS sold nearly 10m in the first two years, but then exploded to hit 26m total in year three. It achieved 81m after year six, for those wondering about original PS figures.



disolitude on 26 November 2008
hotrodx said:
Worldwide, the PS3 has passed the Saturn maybe long ago. But then again the Saturn never had any success outside Japan.

It will take some more time for the PS3 to outsell the Saturn in Japan, where it had modest success.

PS3 will never pass the Saturn where it matters...in my heart! :)

 



Killergran on 26 November 2008
Dryden said:
BKK2 said:
Wikipedia article is wrong, Saturn didn't even ship 10m. Master System was second best selling Sega console with 13m.

Problem with the Wikipedia entry is that the footnote for the 17m sold, if you actually follow that link, is a redirect to GamePro, where it is noted in the source article that the Saturn only sold 9.5m.

http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/111822/the-10-worst-selling-consoles-of-all-time/

Re-reading Wikipedia's console entries for fifth gen ... there are A LOT of things wrong with it. But the Saturn sales are the most glaring. Saturn didn't sell 17m -- not even close!

That's not true. If you follow the link you do not get redirected to GamePro, but to this PDF article:
http://www.26econ.com/pdf/InvisibleEngines.pdf

In it, you'll find the following quote: "Sega’s Saturn fared very poorly, with only 17 million units sold by 1998, when it was discontinued."

Now, it doesn't give sources for that quote, so I cannot say how true it is. But at least get your facts straight.



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Dryden on 26 November 2008
Killergran said:

That's not true. If you follow the link you do not get redirected to GamePro, but to this PDF article:
http://www.26econ.com/pdf/InvisibleEngines.pdf

In it, you'll find the following quote: "Sega’s Saturn fared very poorly, with only 17 million units sold by 1998, when it was discontinued."

Now, it doesn't give sources for that quote, so I cannot say how true it is. But at least get your facts straight.

See my last post above, just noticed that. Depending on which Wikipedia page you view, you'll find different sales figures for the Saturn with different sources.