Why wouldn't they include the TLR bundles...?

 Sometimes they arent tracked. It's happened a few times before. Usually 1-2 weeks when the figures get changed with big bundles. I just cant see TLR selling that many games as copies on it's own.

 You think MS just had 15k regular 360's on shelves then even more with TLR bundle? I think they do include bundles

Yeah bundles are normally tracked. But when there has been big bundles for a region before the figures for some reason have been wrong in the past or not included them. I dont know why. Is it harder to track them??? It's possible it's the same here. It's just those TLR software sals got me thinking it cant all be just software in Japan. To high for 360 me thinks.

All jrpgs are like that.

Besides Pokemanz and Monster Hunter, ofc.

@ selnor

Bundles are always counted. It's why Spec III is in the top 20.

If if they weren't, it no more than 5-9k.

Actually, IIRC, isn't Spec 3 a "PS the best" title in JP now?

And don't MC count hardware bundles in hardware, but not in software too?

So hardware numbers are likely correct, but software could be a bit higher I suppose.

@ DMJ

No. GT5P is already cheap and no 'The Best' title has been successful.

It sold just more than hardware last week. It likely sold 17.8-18.5k this week.

It's in all PS3's now.

The funny thing is that Blue Dragon is still the best-selling game for the 360 in Japan.

@ Bitmap Frogs)

the next challenger for that crown is Star Ocean 4, let's see what that game can do