A question to Asians (non-American/Western)
Do any of you guys enjoy Western RPGs? If so, explain why you like the genre.
Edit:
No offence
A question to Asians (non-American/Western)
Do any of you guys enjoy Western RPGs? If so, explain why you like the genre.
Edit:
No offence


outlawauron said:
Tales of Vesperia, Lost Odyssey, and Valkyria Chronicles all deserve imo. |
Also, FFIV, FF:CC and both FF tactics. Also, both top 2 western RPGs don't deserve such praise.
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routsounmanman said:
Also, FFIV, FF:CC and both FF tactics. Also, both top 2 western RPGs don't deserve such praise. |
Let me see something here...
Do you even play WRPGs?
Khuutra said:
Gimme a breakdown. The only "Shin Megami Tensei" I'm familiar with is Nocturne, and that only by name. So the best game to pick up would be Persona 3? Is it just the bst gme in the series? |
Most people think it's the best. It won a few "Best RPG of 2007" awards.
There's the Shin Megami games, in which there are a few of them... all are on the Ps1 or PS2 as remakes at least i believe.
The Persona games which are a branch series and generally well received.
They're all pretty self contained after the first to Shin Megami Tensei games... if i remember right.

| bouzane said: JRPGs are typically repetitive, linear and lacking in any substantial decision making. There are plenty of valid complaints to be made against JRPGs. The only real problem I see with western gaming journalism is the laughable frequency at which they hand out their 10/10 ratings. Instead of bringing up all JRPGs (I would rate a few higher than average) I'd knock down games like Bioshock, Halo 3 and GTA 4. |
Being repetitive is not a bad thing. Look at Diablo, being "repetitive" is what made that game popular in the first place. Also, you are being unfair towards the linearity and lack of meaningful decision making. You have to realize that JRPGs are made for Japanese gamers first and formost. They are linear because Japanese gamers prefer clear goals whereas years ago, no one cared if a game was linear or not, just as long as the game was fun. However, a game called Grand Theft Auto III came out and narrow minded gamers and critics started to bash games just because they were linear. I would like to add that games are repetitive by nature so nothing can be done about it.
I just read the "Last Remnant got 6.5 from Gamespot" thread and honestly, the game deserves better. So far it is roughly an 8 for me (B or B-) but it is getting better.
I think Western Reviewers are too focused on graphics, honestly.




@Bouzane
WRPG's, on the other hand, usually suffer from a less than stellar main storyline that doesn't even keep me interested enough to beat them. I still haven't played the main storyline of Oblivion, and Fallout's main storyline had a completely craptacular ending. I don't see that being Linear and lacking substantial decision making are problems in themselves. They're a style of storytelling that can work extremely well.
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Maybe reviewers give turn-based JRPGs low scores because they still use combat systems from the SNES era, because the overly talky and non-interactive stories are no fun, and because they're all so bloody easy?
"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."
-Sean Malstrom
| coolestguyever said: ever think that WRPG's are just better. Oblivion was amazing, Fallout 3 is great, Fable 2 is popular but I've never played it. WoW is hella popular even though its nerdy as hell. |
I like RPGs period and Oblivion is overrated. The game is pretty, its well made, but its boring as hell. I actually had more fun with Morrowind. Mass Effect is one of my favorite games this gen, but it got great scores in spite of long load times, bugs, and repetitive side quests. TLR seems to be getting penalized for issues that were also present in Mass Effect. The difference is Mass Effect got a .5 to 1 point deduction. TRL seems to be getting a 1.5 to 2 point deduction.

Darc Requiem said:
I like RPGs period and Oblivion is overrated. The game is pretty, its well made, but its boring as hell. I actually had more fun with Morrowind. Mass Effect is one of my favorite games this gen, but it got great scores in spite of long load times, bugs, and repetitive side quests. TLR seems to be getting penalized for issues that were also present in Mass Effect. The difference is Mass Effect got a .5 to 1 point deduction. TRL seems to be getting a 1.5 to 2 point deduction. |
The reviewers seems to think that the technical issues are more glaring in TLR than they were in Mass Effect