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kakarotto on 21 November 2008
Fei-Hung said:
The 360 has done extremely well even if they lose this gen considering they were a pile of bull**** last gen. They have managed to plan ahead, and execute this plan perfectly (except the RROD) and the efforts are now paying off.

Sony sat on their asses for too long thinking their brand name will win them another generation. Well, they may still come second, but no one can downplay the ground MS has gathered, the following they have created, the strategies they have implicated, the Exclusives they have taken and the beating they have given.

This gen has been a megaton and has turned the industry on its head.

Ninty was 3rd last gen, now it's second.
Xbox was 2nd, now it is ermmm 2nd lol
Sony was 1st, now it is last!

I blame Sony and Ninty, they screwed up the rotation!

 

Nintendo is first, not second.



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Ender on 21 November 2008

Zucas said:

But I don't agree with their tactics that allowed to do that. So I commend them for how they were able to swing things in a better direction for themselves but I'm disturbed by their methods.

 

Do you mean by treating the video game market as a business?



Jackson50 on 21 November 2008
Zucas said:
Well they've definitely done a lot of aggressive things this year that have been able to help them and that is commendable. But I don't agree with their tactics that allowed to do that. So I commend them for how they were able to swing things in a better direction for themselves but I'm disturbed by their methods. But from a purely gaming perspective it is quite impressive.

Which tactics do you find disconcerting? 

 



sinha on 22 November 2008
StarcraftManiac said:
mrstickball said:

Here's the *official* timeline with color coding since late 07:

  • October: Sony drops the price $100, and introduces a leaner 40GB model. Sales jump, and the Playstation 3 edges the Xbox 360 by very slim margins for the first viable time since launch.
  • January-February: Playstation 3 continues,  to lead the 'box in Europe/Others by healthy margins. Playstation 3 is outselling the X360 by 40,000 units in March, per week.
  • March: To counter monumental European sales of the Playstation 3, Microsoft cuts prices in Mid-March. X360 sees a 50% increase in sales, but doesn't beat the Playstation for any given week.
  • April: Grand Theft Auto IV launches, closing the widening hardware gap - Playstation 3 maintains a slim week-by-week lead from late April to mid June
  • June: Metal Gear Solid 4 launches. The X360 faces it's darkest days, losing 3:1 in hardware sales the week of MGS4
  • E3 Happens. Microsoft announces XIII and Star Ocean 4 for the X360. 
  • July: Microsoft announces 60GB model, and slashes 20GB prices by $50 to clear out old stock. X360 beats Playstation 3 in the US for 4 weeks between the drop, and 80GB shortages.
  • Gundam: Operation Troy launches in Japan, leading the X360 to begin it's ascent in Japan
  • August: Tales of Vesperia launches in Japan. Xbox 360 outsells the Playstation 3 2.5:1 in Sony's home territory
  • Late August - The Playstation 3 mounts it's last, best margins against the X360's sagging late-August sales, by beating the 'Box 2:1 thanks to the price drop announcement's rumors on the Internet.
  • September: Microsoft officially announces Xbox 360's price to drop to $200 for Arcade model. Sales begin to climb for the X360 in the US, overtaking the Playstation 3 after what seemed like months of losses.
  • Infinite Undiscovery launches in Japan alongside the same US price cuts. Beats the Playstation over 3:1, and begins a 6 week run above the PS3.
  • October: Microsoft announces European price cuts - the 2nd in a year. The X360 begins regularly outselling the Playstation 3 in multiple territories, with the UK spearheading the lead. The X360 now enjoys a 50,000 units/wk lead worldwide for late September and all of October
  • LittleBigPlanet releases on Playstation 3 in late October, leading the Playstation 3 back to a lead in Japan (alongside the 80GB model), and within 15,000 units globally

Thats the way I see it, at least.

And to add something to that: The weekly gap for this week is ~70k (69k specifically).

Also, the gap between PS3 and X360 is now somewhere around 6 million in favour of the X360... I believe it was around 5.4 at launch!

 

 

Increasing the gap by 600k over two years doesn't sound like much, but I'm sure Microsoft expected the gap to narrow considerably, so they'll take it.

 



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

Infamy79 on 22 November 2008
leo-j said:
The 360 hasnt won 2008, gaming wise it didnt, and neither did it win sales wise.

There is still a 1 million console lead for the ps3 for 2008.

The Wii won 2008 just like it did 2007, or are you playing the whole "it's not a next gen system" card?



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Ronster316 on 22 November 2008

I'm proud to be a UK resident who owns the most popular current gen HD console in the UK by a LOOOOOOOOONG way, over 1 million way by the way lol, The almighty xbox 360



Bitmap Frogs on 22 November 2008
Infamy79 said:
leo-j said:
The 360 hasnt won 2008, gaming wise it didnt, and neither did it win sales wise.

There is still a 1 million console lead for the ps3 for 2008.

The Wii won 2008 just like it did 2007, or are you playing the whole "it's not a next gen system" card?

 

In truth, it's two last-gen systems together!

Behold the power of duct tape, etc etc.





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Agamemnon862 on 22 November 2008

Yes, MS has completely turned things around. The "year of the PS3" isnt gonna come as easily as Sony believed.



Infamy79 on 22 November 2008
Bitmap Frogs said:
Infamy79 said:
leo-j said:
The 360 hasnt won 2008, gaming wise it didnt, and neither did it win sales wise.

There is still a 1 million console lead for the ps3 for 2008.

The Wii won 2008 just like it did 2007, or are you playing the whole "it's not a next gen system" card?

 

In truth, it's two last-gen systems together!

Behold the power of duct tape, etc etc.

 

Does that mean that we should actually be adding 2 Gamecube sales to it's total for every Wii sold?
Which will result in the GC outselling PS2 by well over 2:1 at the end of the Wii's life to win the previous gen?

It should mean that the Gamecube is currently at 79 million and will be close to 100 million by the end of the year



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Endz on 22 November 2008

All this effort people are saying...throwing money around is not effort.

Going in a new direction (Wii), putting different technology (Wii and PS3) and a new video format (PS3). Putting so much investment into a product while the overall company isn't doing all too great (PS3). All of that is effort, MS just throws money around and copy ideas and make them better with their piles of money.

I'm not saying MS doesn't deserve to be in the gaming market but they are not putting any hard effort (check definition of effort), its very easy for them to waste money into any "problem".