Call of duty is not a tired series and as for no local multiplayer? Ask Nintendo that question, because if it could have been added easily it would have been. 10 million sales from the last versionn?

COD WAW isn't top of the line but its definately the best pure shooter on the Wii.

Resident Evil and Mario Kart. Two scions of the "Re-release previous generation software on the Wii" mantra. Why make new software when you can make old software new again? Heck they can even make it a PR piece.

And no I never said it was a rejection of Core games but damn I've seen many people wax lyrical on the merits of the Wiimote for shooter type games and if they don't sell then obviously as a genre its going to be under-represented. See theres no explanation really, on the 360 COD came a week after Gears of War and still sold really well, but on the Wii theres no such competition from similar games.

I'm not going to respond to that until you make clear whether or not you're serious about the Mario Kart Wii jab.

And if you've ever played it, I guess.

Too bad if you did not get my point. This thread is about third parties not "getting" the wii. I think they do understand what sells on wii. What sells best on wii? Minigames. Wii sports, wii play, wii fit. So third parties make minigames and a nice profit.

Next big seller is a game with mario on it, that is not an option for third parties. Closest you can get is sonic... which sells nicely and judging by the games I've seen, it makes nice profit once again.

As for your point 2,

That is not even remotely the same thing. Do you know a minigame collection that has sold millions on 360/ps3?

@Squiliam: I think your keyword was easilly. If it would have been wanted to add, it would have been added. Basically you just proved Khuutras point. The publisher didn't want to invest for the feature. I'd guess, that in comparision to PS360 developement, it would have been fairly cheap to add.

I think you're mistaken, Mario Kart haven't been ported to Wii. I guess you confuse it to Twilight Princess.

Can you give examples of the Nintendo games you are talking about in the last paragraph?  I'm not sure what surefire hit that fell short or unexpected evergreen title you are talking about.

@Esa-Petteri: Your point was presented with no logic.

Show me a good minigame collection on PS3 or 360 and i judge it by the game (outside LBP). The point was, the games that have been put effort into, sell on all consoles. We have a number of titles on Wii, that aren't minigames and have sold in large numbers. There also aren't coming out many minigames anymore, could it be because of the "birdmen" that were after easy money and noticed that there aren't easy money to be made.

Wii Sports and Wii Fit are disruptive or blue ocean software, where the "minigame collection" meme doesn't really work. They aren't selling because they are minigames, they are selling despite being minigame collections.

The next big seller on Wii is a game with Tom Nook.

Now, what you did, was pick a number of minigames and dismiss everything important and basically everything outside minigames. Basically that's the thing Reggie was talking about. DS should give an implication to devs and publishers, what kind of strategy they should be using. The thing that pisses 3rd parties is, that if they play the strategy, it's helping Nintendo and if they don't, it's damaging themselves and helps Nintendo.

But, there's one valid reason, why 3rd parties don't want to "get" Wii, that remotedly relates to what Ail said, and that is 3rd parties wanting power from the 1st parties for themselves. The SNES/Megadrive era was best for 3rd parties, every other generation have been shit to them with 1st parties telling how and what to do. 3rd parties want the 1st parties to fight over the 3rd party support.

Wii, is the suck. Haven't turned mine on in probably 4 months.

A good example of what I'm talking about is Nintendogs and Wii Music. The former didn't seem like it should have been a hit (there are tons of pet simulators out there, after all, and quite a few similar to Nintendogs). But it's become one of the best-selling games of this generation, a gateway to portable gaming. Since then, just about every Touch Generations title has been a big hit (Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, Brain Age, Brain Age 2, etc.).

Wii Music follows in the same footsteps as Nintendogs et. al., but it isn't having the same sort of impact in spite of that. It may be too early to call on Wii Music (in fact, I'm almost certain it's too early), but the evidence thus far is that it's not having the same impact as its fellow Touch Generations titles. But why? Going by the established formula underlying Touch Generations, it should have the same impact as the rest of the series, but so far it has not.

sorry...read something and have to reply:

CoDWaW Wii...

it's half-assed beyond belief.. they missed the entire idea

a freaking PSP port sells better...why?
because of the gameplay: multiplayer and controls

CoDWaW lacks the controls..(Conduit is coming soon and will kill all other control schemes)

and they KILLED the multiplayer..no local, no co-op only deathmatch and some generic mode

no search and destroy no zombie co-op

honestly..all they did was try to port the CoD4 engine to the Wii
I call that Half-hearted


the Wii was never about graphics..and never will be

the Conduit is praised for it's graphics on most sites..but it pulls me mostly for gameplay:
unique weapons, custom controls, local multiplayer..lol..you think it doesn't?: LAN,and they are working on co-op

it feels like they are really trying to squeeze the juice out of the Wii
while CoDWaW feels like your regular downgraded port..

@Sky Render: Maybe the problem is "Going by the established formula underlying Touch Generations".
Actually when you look at the successful Touch Generations games, you'll notice they all are pretty unique, when something like Wii Chess didn't really have an impact.
There were pet sims before Nintendogs, but nothing the same level of quality and since Nintendogs use the DS:s special functions in an innovative way, it's actually no wonder that we have a winner.

I agree it's too early to say anything about Wii Musics possible success, it's definately a title that finds its way under the christmas tree. But after christmas, it's really a big question how it will do. Well, good word of mouth may do wonders.
Also, there's a large number of unique music/rhythm games in the market, that should be taken into account.