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Gobias said:
dinomaxx said:
brwa brwa brwa brwa my name is dinomaxx n i hate metacritic. brwa brwa brwa

 

I agree.

And metal gear solid is a movie. and playstation 3 is for preteens that still wet the bet brwa brwa brwa



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*Raises fist in victory*

Beat that Rolstoppable! I trolled hard enough to anger someone to actually take the time to start an account making fun on me!

 



One look at any review collecting site would tell you that LittleBigPlanet is the better game by nearly every measure. They're exclusives for different platforms, appealing to fairly different audiences. Most people can't even tell if Banjo is a racer or platformer (I certainly don't know) and I haven't seen advertisements anywhere close to the level I've seen for LittleBigPlanet. Some games were meant to compete and steal hype from one another (Resistance and Gears of War, for example). I can't imagine Banjo and LBP having such a relationship.



 

 

Dinomax said:
*Raises fist in victory*

Beat that Rolstoppable! I trolled hard enough to anger someone to get an account making fun on me!

Balls in Rols court now!

So you admit youre trolling huh

 



@Montana

GT said Banjo is a racer, there is no platforming in the game.



 

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Why is this site suddenly so review-obsessive? It wasn't like this at all when I first joined. And it made perfect sense that review scores were rarely mentioned, since this is a sales site, and I think both metacritic and gamerankings have their own forums. But now, I'm seeing so many topics about reviews, and now people are trying to keep sales OUT of a thread?!

I guess I'm just sad since this site seemed great for me because I was interested in game sales, and now there seems to be no way to avoid constantly reading about review scores...but I'm ranting uselessly now, so I'll stop.

As for the games in question, I'm quite certain LBP will sell more, just from the fact that it could see sales numbers close to the best selling Banjo game (I'm going to stay vague about LTD predictions because I'm not certain). I think we can safely say Rare is not suddenly going to perform better than their N64 days with this game, judging both from past trends and differences in the overall market and the X360 userbase, so I believe LBP will almost certainly sell more. As for stealing some of LBP's sales, I believe something like that would be minimal because from what I've seen the two titles seem to aim for fairly different demographics, and they're on different consoles (so any competition is limited to multi-console owners and new console purchasers).



naznatips said:
While I enjoy Banjo overall, the game has major flaws, and is a good but not great game. There is certainly nothing platformer about it. It's a racing game, with some adventure aspects. It's more a sequel to Diddy Kong Racing than Banjo Kazooie.

And again, don't get me wrong, it's a fun game, but from a quality standpoint while LBP only has one real major flaw with the plane shifting being pretty loose, Banjo Kazooie has numerous gameplay issues which pop-up, so I do not think a comparison between these two games is favorable for Banjo or Rare, nor is it what Microsoft should want. Better to compare it to the old N64 Kart Racers, as it's more a spiritual sequel to those than it is an evolution to the platforming genre.

Nazna what do you not enjoy about the new BK? To me it's neither racer or platformer, but more like a puzzle platformer.

 




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Grahamhsu said:
naznatips said:
While I enjoy Banjo overall, the game has major flaws, and is a good but not great game. There is certainly nothing platformer about it. It's a racing game, with some adventure aspects. It's more a sequel to Diddy Kong Racing than Banjo Kazooie.

And again, don't get me wrong, it's a fun game, but from a quality standpoint while LBP only has one real major flaw with the plane shifting being pretty loose, Banjo Kazooie has numerous gameplay issues which pop-up, so I do not think a comparison between these two games is favorable for Banjo or Rare, nor is it what Microsoft should want. Better to compare it to the old N64 Kart Racers, as it's more a spiritual sequel to those than it is an evolution to the platforming genre.

Nazna what do you not enjoy about the new BK? To me it's neither racer or platformer, but more like a puzzle platformer.

 

 

A lot unfortunately.  To start with the controls at the beginning of the game are extremely loose.  You should never have to earn better controls (this is the same issue Sonic and the Secret Rings had).  You will never be able to have anything remotely resembling control over your vehicle on hills until you get the grip wheels, and even then control is passable at best.  Objects are contsantly getting stuck under your vehicle which can and will completely halt your movement, and there are plenty of objects in the world to do this.  Driving up a hill can make half your vehicle fall apart just from bumping into the hill you're driving on. 

Numerous other annoyances, these are just the start, but the positives outweigh the negatives.  I absolutely see no platforming in this game at all.  None.  The missions are pure vehicle-based racing.  There is some SLIGHT platforming in town exploration, but that's almost optional. This is not a platformer by any stretch of the imagination or the term platforming.



Let me see...

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naznatips said:
Grahamhsu said:
naznatips said:
While I enjoy Banjo overall, the game has major flaws, and is a good but not great game. There is certainly nothing platformer about it. It's a racing game, with some adventure aspects. It's more a sequel to Diddy Kong Racing than Banjo Kazooie.

And again, don't get me wrong, it's a fun game, but from a quality standpoint while LBP only has one real major flaw with the plane shifting being pretty loose, Banjo Kazooie has numerous gameplay issues which pop-up, so I do not think a comparison between these two games is favorable for Banjo or Rare, nor is it what Microsoft should want. Better to compare it to the old N64 Kart Racers, as it's more a spiritual sequel to those than it is an evolution to the platforming genre.

Nazna what do you not enjoy about the new BK? To me it's neither racer or platformer, but more like a puzzle platformer.

 

 

A lot unfortunately.  To start with the controls at the beginning of the game are extremely loose.  You should never have to earn better controls (this is the same issue Sonic and the Secret Rings had).  You will never be able to have anything remotely resembling control over your vehicle on hills until you get the grip wheels, and even then control is passable at best.  Objects are contsantly getting stuck under your vehicle which can and will completely halt your movement, and there are plenty of objects in the world to do this.  Driving up a hill can make half your vehicle fall apart just from bumping into the hill you're driving on. 

Numerous other annoyances, these are just the start, but the positives outweigh the negatives.  I absolutely see no platforming in this game at all.  None.  The missions are pure vehicle-based racing.  There is some SLIGHT platforming in town exploration, but that's almost optional. This is not a platformer by any stretch of the imagination or the term platforming.

Yes you do have to earn better controls, I myself have Sonic and the Secret Rings but I was never upset at that. If objects get stuck under the vehicle, all you need to do is make the vehicle lowered and it even allows it to handle better. My recent daily driver car only had objects stuck under in a race where they suggest you get a vehicle that can hop over obstacles and I decided to just plow through them. I've never had the vehicle break on me in the middle of a hill without being shot at. Perhaps this isn't a platformer but at the same time I don't believe it's a racing game either. Of my 40 jiggies only 5-7 of them were earned through racing missions. I guess it's more similar to GTA, run around an open world and do simple tasks however since you can change your vehicle these simple tasks have a lot of depth and replay to them than tasks in GTA.

 




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