Could Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts steal some of LBP thunder?

[Grahamhsu]

naznatips said:

Grahamhsu said:

naznatips said:
While I enjoy Banjo overall, the game has major flaws, and is a good but not great game. There is certainly nothing platformer about it. It's a racing game, with some adventure aspects. It's more a sequel to Diddy Kong Racing than Banjo Kazooie.

And again, don't get me wrong, it's a fun game, but from a quality standpoint while LBP only has one real major flaw with the plane shifting being pretty loose, Banjo Kazooie has numerous gameplay issues which pop-up, so I do not think a comparison between these two games is favorable for Banjo or Rare, nor is it what Microsoft should want. Better to compare it to the old N64 Kart Racers, as it's more a spiritual sequel to those than it is an evolution to the platforming genre.

Nazna what do you not enjoy about the new BK? To me it's neither racer or platformer, but more like a puzzle platformer.

 

 

A lot unfortunately.  To start with the controls at the beginning of the game are extremely loose.  You should never have to earn better controls (this is the same issue Sonic and the Secret Rings had).  You will never be able to have anything remotely resembling control over your vehicle on hills until you get the grip wheels, and even then control is passable at best.  Objects are contsantly getting stuck under your vehicle which can and will completely halt your movement, and there are plenty of objects in the world to do this.  Driving up a hill can make half your vehicle fall apart just from bumping into the hill you're driving on. 

Numerous other annoyances, these are just the start, but the positives outweigh the negatives.  I absolutely see no platforming in this game at all.  None.  The missions are pure vehicle-based racing.  There is some SLIGHT platforming in town exploration, but that's almost optional. This is not a platformer by any stretch of the imagination or the term platforming.

Yes you do have to earn better controls, I myself have Sonic and the Secret Rings but I was never upset at that. If objects get stuck under the vehicle, all you need to do is make the vehicle lowered and it even allows it to handle better. My recent daily driver car only had objects stuck under in a race where they suggest you get a vehicle that can hop over obstacles and I decided to just plow through them. I've never had the vehicle break on me in the middle of a hill without being shot at. Perhaps this isn't a platformer but at the same time I don't believe it's a racing game either. Of my 40 jiggies only 5-7 of them were earned through racing missions. I guess it's more similar to GTA, run around an open world and do simple tasks however since you can change your vehicle these simple tasks have a lot of depth and replay to them than tasks in GTA.