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donathos on 14 November 2008

Not being an expert in Japan (or anything, really), I can only guess. But it seems to me that the Japanese have very particular cultural tastes. (Or maybe it just seems particular to me, because it's different from what I'm used to.)

It seems there may have been a change there, and maybe Nintendo sensed it, which is why they developed the new wave of Touch Generation/Wii titles that they have. Those titles appear to do well, generally (though the jury's still out on Music).

I don't know if the problem is Nintendo, or the Wii... maybe the problem is that third parties haven't yet caught up to the culture shift in Japan. And they don't really have to, because the rest of the world still buys up their games.

If Wii sales were down, and PS3 and 360 sales were up, I'd agree that Wii wasn't doing something right. But since all three are down, I'm guessing that the "problem" isn't Wii's alone, but something more general about the marketplace there.



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Xen on 14 November 2008
Maynard_Tool said:
Xen said:
Maynard_Tool said:
^ just look at its sales...... both HARD & SOFT.

Hardware is a problem because of price and the Japanese economy being on a downturn... should well improve with WKC and the other games released for it in 2009...

But you talk software? how come the PS3 has software in the Japan top 10 and the Wii doesn't? major, intentional, self pwn? A Western shooter, R2, outsells a casual game 4:1? the Wii is in trouble, not the PS3.

 

 

Ok, you can make whatever excuse you want. Compare the numers, that's all I asked for.

If you think the wii is in trouble with almost 7 million consoles sold (compare to less than 3 millions Ps3) and 24 million+ of software (compare to.... 7 million+ software of ps3)........... Well, you need to improve in your math skills dude

Beside the fact that it's cheaper, it's also an extended userbase, plus has more games released for it, plus Nintendo who has always been big in Japan... and their games are a huge chunk out of the total sales. Sure, it has performed better in the long run, but it has been in a decline recently... as you can see by recent sales.

 



Maynard_Tool on 14 November 2008

^As i said before....you can make w/e excuse you like, that doesnt change anything. For example:

Yes, the userbase is larger, that was something that i was arguing. SO if nintendo is doing bad, how is sony doing???
Yes, yes the price....big influence, right??? I mean, the Game Cube was more expensive than the ps2, that's why the game cube sold less.....oh, wait. Sorry, i failed in that one.
Let me try it again.... Yes Big chunk of the Software sales are from nintendo itself, and .... well, can't say anything else. First party games are as important as third... Actually [WAY] more important because those are the exclusive ones that can make you choose one console over the other one.... so, yeah.
Ok another one, the wii has been in decline lately, just look how the ps3 is at 22K+ the week ending november 8, and the wii is at ...... 27K???? Damn it, I failed again ='(



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bdbdbd on 14 November 2008

@Donathos: One problem in Japan in general is major third parties shifting their focus to western markets. And as pointed out already, DS seems to be the one that gets all the japanese love.



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Eikä Japanisti.

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johnsobas on 14 November 2008
Xen said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Xen said:
Maynard_Tool said:
^ just look at its sales...... both HARD & SOFT.

Hardware is a problem because of price and the Japanese economy being on a downturn... should well improve with WKC and the other games released for it in 2009...

But you talk software? how come the PS3 has software in the Japan top 10 and the Wii doesn't? major, intentional, self pwn? A Western shooter, R2, outsells a casual game 4:1? the Wii is in trouble, not the PS3.

 

 

Ok, you can make whatever excuse you want. Compare the numers, that's all I asked for.

If you think the wii is in trouble with almost 7 million consoles sold (compare to less than 3 millions Ps3) and 24 million+ of software (compare to.... 7 million+ software of ps3)........... Well, you need to improve in your math skills dude

Beside the fact that it's cheaper, it's also an extended userbase, plus has more games released for it, plus Nintendo who has always been big in Japan... and their games are a huge chunk out of the total sales. Sure, it has performed better in the long run, but it has been in a decline recently... as you can see by recent sales.

 

Yes it's cheaper, has a bigger userbase and more games that's exactly his point.  It's not in decline, if you're talking about the hardware sales they went to 21k last year, they never got that low last year.  We had doom and gloom last year at this time too for the wii in Japan because wii sales were 20k and ps3 outsold it for 3 weeks, but that was the extent of it.  Wii owned the holidays.

 



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Oyvoyvoyv on 14 November 2008

Let's compare. Wii vs Ps2, 102 weeks after launch, Japan only.

Ps2 hardware - 7.9M

Wii hardware - 7M

 

Ps2 software - 25.7M

Wii software - 24.6M

 

1st party Ps2 software - 3197K 3.2M

1st party software for Wii - 16173K - 16.2M

 

3rd party software Ps2 - 22.5M

3rd party software Wii - 8.4M

 

Ratios -

3rd party

Ps2 - 3 games pr console

Wii - 1.2 games pr console

 

1st party

Ps2 - 0.4 games pr console

Wii - 2.5 games pr console

 

Wii is doing decent. Slightly behind in hardware, which is explainable due to 1 less christmas (1st was incredibly supply constrained, and would have sold the same anyway), and has equal software despite of it.

I added the ratios just because people seem to find them interesting, whereas I don't really need them.

 



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Maynard_Tool on 14 November 2008
johnsobas said:
Xen said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Xen said:
Maynard_Tool said:
^ just look at its sales...... both HARD & SOFT.

Hardware is a problem because of price and the Japanese economy being on a downturn... should well improve with WKC and the other games released for it in 2009...

But you talk software? how come the PS3 has software in the Japan top 10 and the Wii doesn't? major, intentional, self pwn? A Western shooter, R2, outsells a casual game 4:1? the Wii is in trouble, not the PS3.

 

 

Ok, you can make whatever excuse you want. Compare the numers, that's all I asked for.

If you think the wii is in trouble with almost 7 million consoles sold (compare to less than 3 millions Ps3) and 24 million+ of software (compare to.... 7 million+ software of ps3)........... Well, you need to improve in your math skills dude

Beside the fact that it's cheaper, it's also an extended userbase, plus has more games released for it, plus Nintendo who has always been big in Japan... and their games are a huge chunk out of the total sales. Sure, it has performed better in the long run, but it has been in a decline recently... as you can see by recent sales.

 

Yes it's cheaper, has a bigger userbase and more games that's exactly his point.  It's not in decline, if you're talking about the hardware sales they went to 21k last year, they never got that low last year.  We had doom and gloom last year at this time too for the wii in Japan because wii sales were 20k and ps3 outsold it for 3 weeks, but that was the extent of it.  Wii owned the holidays.

 

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Oyvoyvoyv on 14 November 2008

Now, GC vs Ps3. 105 weeks on the market. 5K difference in hardware atm.

GC hardware - 2.5M

Ps3 hardware - 2.5M

 

GC software - 10.9M

Ps3 software - 7.3M

 

GC 1st party - 4818K - 4.8M

Ps3 1st party - 669K - 0.7M

 

GC 3rd party - 6.1M

Ps3 3rd party - 6.6M

 

A minor difference in 3rd party, and GC beats Ps3 heavily in total software. For software, the Wii is closer to matching the Ps2 than the Ps3 is to match the GC.

 

Ratios

 

GC -  2.44

Ps3 3rd party  - 2.64

 

1st party

Ps3 - 0.28

GC - 1.9

Ps3 -

 



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senortaco on 14 November 2008
trestres said:
@senortaco: Which of those games do you see being a big hit like Wii Sports Resort or Animal Crossing?

I honestly doubt any of those games will sell more than what the average 1st party game sells.

 

So in order for a game to be decent it has to register Wii sports, or Gow2(us sales) figures? You don't see the Tansunko -v- Capcom selling at all? Taiko Drum Master either? Sonic Unleashed?

...The problem I see here is an issue of the quality of the the 3rd party games SO FAR, PLUS the PS2 still being a viable option in Japan.

I still want your opinion on what Current gen system you feel could fill that void? Sony? Microsoft? Right now the Wii for has the most japanese centric games upcoming. Thats what I wanted to show you with that list.



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Oyvoyvoyv on 14 November 2008

Doing XB just for fun - 153 weeks.

 

XB hardware  - 467K

X360 hardware - 786K

 

XB SW - 1229K

X360 SW - 3544K

 

1st party XB - 52K

1st party 360 - 29K

 

3rd party XB - 1177K

3rd party - 3515K

 

Ratios

 

3rd party XB - 2.52 pr console

3rd party 360 - 4.5 pr console

 



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