Aye, more PS3 hype from the SDF. Face the facts: PS3 will be in last place this gen. 360 outsold PS3 2 to 1 in U$ for Oct. P$3 is just too expensive for this sluggish worldwide economy. The Wii and 360 are priced to sell well. $ony made a huge mistake for forcing yet another proprietary tech to consumers: blu-ray. That has inflated P$3's price too high for the average consumer.

there is a slim chance that the PS3 will stay in last this generation. the 360 has no more gimmicks except for selling it for free.

No, no, no, no Montana, this is nonsense. Obvious example: if a Toyota Camry were sold for 500 dollars, what would happen? Answer: The Camry would make up 99% market share within weeks. I don't think that's an exaggeration at all.

Value is a perception. Some products (like the Camry) would sell ridiculous amounts at 500 dollars; others would not (let's say, a normal box of Kleenex).

The problem is that most people do not value a Playstation 3 at 500 dollars. Or 400, apparently.

you realize that the 160GB model will be insanely profitable for Sony right? Uncharted is already profitable and a 160GB HDD doesnt cost $100. The only thing that isnt a benefit is the PAIN code but really Sony might be making a profit on that too.

It doesn't really mean anything to increasing the userbase though. We've seen this before, when the market was pushing for a 360 price cut, and what we got was effectively a price hike with the release of the Elite SKU. If I remember correctly, that only managed to increase sales by a little.

When Sony starts making Camrys, tell me. I thought the mention of Sony (and the topic of this thread) would negate large amounts of counter scenarios, but I suppose not.

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Except that's like saying a PS3 that sells for $5 would have 99% of the market. I know what you're trying to say, but if its a little from both sides.

It's like Mercedes Benz, they charge a premium for their product because they have a high perceived value, but at the end of the day, if you can't afford one, then it doesn't matter how much value it has, you simply can't afford it.

The flip side of the argument is "they don't need to sell a Mercedes Benz for cheap."  They don't sell like a low-end Honda, but with the price-point they don't need to.

Not that I disagree with you.  On the contrary, your argument is spot on.  I just think Sony should leave the price where it is unless they start bleeding market share to 360 in buckets.

If I;m right Sony isnt aiming at an increase of marketshare with the 160GB SKU, they are aiming at $$$. The 80GB SKU is there for marketshare. I believe Sony isnt going to be shipping a massive amount of 160GB SKUs.

If Sony can make a profit this Christmas they can afford tio drop the price sometime in 2009.