Sorry, I just kinda skimmed the thread... Why would hitoriki try to date his mom?

Read this thread, especially my posts. I'm really smart and hip with the ladies.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=47607

Actually the OP took my advice to heart the most, so it would seem I am the smartest on the hips of a lady.

@Rocketpig-Sex before or after? Or both?

Beware of the Just Friends zone!!!! If you cross that you can never go back or get out of it!!! NEVER!!!

That depends on your flavor of kink, naturally. Are you a "it puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose again" or a "farva beans with a nice chianti" person.

Personally, I swing both ways depending on mood.

That's naive. Do you know who the top candidates are when a girl needs to revenge fuck because he boyfriend did any number of meaningless offenses she blew way out of proportion? The random dude she pulls into a bathroom stall at the club and the guys in her "friend zone".

@Rocketpig-I flap my dongle from side to side with hip power as I pee in a stall and see which wall gets covered in more urine. It's like flipping a coin, but sexier.

It's not just about sex.  It's about getting them to like you, but not too much... if they like you too much, they talk too much...

Did I just say that out loud? Ah, crap.

WHOA WHOA, wait a minute. Are you guys telling me that the days where you just lightly knock her on the head and drag her back to your cave while she's unconscious are done and over with?

In a completely unrelated sense, does anyone have a room where I can hide out for a month or two?

Actually, that is the best way to win a woman. It's a long story, but if you put enough effort into a friendship, it will turn. You'll get an opportunity - you just can't flub it up.

I have seen it happen firsthand. I had women who weren't attracted to me tell me to my face that even though I wasn't their *type* but they fell for me because they could trust me.

Knowing what I know now, if I was single again, any woman that I am friends with, I could have. No joke, dude. Dudes don't realize friends is the best way to go. You just have to ask yourself how far are you willing to go to win a woman's heart - and how much effort you are going to put into your quest.

*Achievement unlocked* - the key to her heart

Man, Rubang, Oxymeth and my comments about the mom and Calvin Klein were Back to the Future references.

Young women like assholes. Mature women like wimps.
If you want a serious chance of a relationship, talk to her, try to be her friend and be prepared to wait arround. A lot. Maybe while she dates other people.
If you just want to... do things with her already, then just go up to her and say whatever bullshit comes to mind. Either you'll look completely stupid, or you'll get a date. The greater the risk... well, you get the picture!
But don't pay any atention to what I'm saying, I run away from women and they run away from me. I tried to figger them out. Didn't work. I gave up.