When I read the title I thought this was another PS3 hate thread.

OT: Yes, the quality has truly died down. And not many games coming from them to consoles as of late. Am sure that FF13 and 13VS aren't sucking up 70% of the damn 3K staff 0.0. The've managed to releases console JRPG this gen so far, and they have [to my knowledge] atleast 5 in development...

I would totally forgive them!

Yeah, it's been years and years we still see the same trailers from ffxiii and vxiii. IU wasn't even developed by S-E itself. I think it was only published by them. It seems they only do remakes now due to the exodus of thier innovative talent.

Hah! Nice shot at DQ, I'm pretty sure that wasn't the reason though

OT: I know what you're talking about. I haven't thoroughly played their PS RPG's, but when I play their stuff from the SNES era I often think, "why can't they still make games like this?" Hell, Secret of Mana recently came out on the VC, there's a perfect example.

I don't think it's so much the performance of the PS3, it probably has more to do with the HD graphics. They also seem to have lost most of their talent... who knows where they are. If the team that did FFX is still there, they haven't done anything notable in 7 years - it makes me skeptical of FFXIII. They don't even do SO or DQ (done by tri-ace/Level 5), so all that leaves us with is the KH team and whoever did FFXII (scratch that if Matsuno was what people liked about it, because he left). That isn't much to look forward to.

whatever happend to vagrant story? I loved that game... i reckon square should redeem themselves and make one for the current gen... that would be awesome!

but on subject yes I think square has been doing a rubbish job recently, but I'll wait for the next final fantasy before i give out some judgement on them. I mean the last final fantasy was terrible!... and to be honest I can't remember the last square game I played

Some guy on youtube said he emailed square and apparently , Matsuno was the one behind VS. Since he left, they said they can't make a sequel because they need the original team.

I was wondering if anyone would note the shot.

Still, while I was kidding about that, it may be some of the reason. Think about it, we have Square, that keeps pumping one amazing game after another, reinventing itself, setting new standars with every game, and then they merge with a company whose flagship series is one that it's 8th game has a story and gameplay that for me couldn't even be consireded good in the the NES era. I wonder if Enix has been responsible of slowing Square down, and that once amazing company has been reduced to do remake after remake, with great games far and between

Atlus > Level 5 > Namco Bandai > a piece of dog.. >>> Square Enix

I second this. DQVIII and DQIX look exactly the same. No 2 FFs  look the same.

They havent released a single game this generation ....its normal you miss them ,we all do.The closest they have been to release something is publishing UI on the 360 ....but nothing developed by themselves has hit the stores.