Great point. This is always overlooked when it comes to comparing physics

@ Euphoria14

The CryTek Engine is a real showcase engine for PC physics, it makes excellent use of multi-cores. Killzone 2's physics may look better in the final game, but this then IMO has mostly to do with polished game assets (artistic effort and such).

The Cell is a potential physics monster though, it can beat a current top range quad-core PC CPU at physics. Killzone 3 will likely push the PS3 a lot further, looking at the diagrams the devs have a lot of CPU time to spare still, next to endless opportunities for optimisations (which are more likely to be near fully realized on a console during its lifecycle vs an upgradeable PC, where it's often more cost effective to require users to upgrade their motherboard, RAM, processor, etc rather than going all the extra miles).

Ofcourse Crysis looks better, its a bloody PC game.

That being said, no game currently in development or out on any console looks even comparable to Killzone 2's graphics.

That pretty much sums up the whole argument.

Who brought up Crysis in the first place? I'd like to ask him why he did it =P

Look no further than the second comment.

If only the title of the thread included best CONSOLE FPS ever. That needs to be made clear or Crysis will be brought up every time and for good reason... ;)

Umm, at least it wasn't in offence to KZ :D

Don't do it next time =P

From the other killzone 2 thread

nx Message Add Friend Posts: 115 vg$ 1,136.25 (11/01/08, 15:16)

You got impressed seing that video? "WOWOWOWOWOWWOWOWOWOWOWO its in-game footage, OMFG" Play Crysis. tsssss [insert useless text here]

I think the PC will go (and is going) through a similar phase as the Amiga was going through during its life cycle.

The low-end Amigas were capable of running a huge library of great quality games, for developers it usually made far more sense to produce games which ran well on low-end hardware as well as being compatible but taking very limited advantage of high-end more expensive Amiga hardware.

Currently every PC sold out there is capable of handling 99% of the tasks most people are looking for in a PC, there are 100 millions of PC gamers out there, but people who own a machine to get the most out of a game like Crysis (and don't pirate games) is a very small percentage of this. The best selling PC games are actually usually the less demanding ones, sometimes still using less advanced not very heavily multi-threaded game engines.

On the Amiga only a handful of people upgraded their Amigas to play games like Quake, Wipeout 2097, Heretic 2, Earth 2140, Shogo, etc or good Amiga exclusives like Alien Breed 3D II, Foundation, Napalm, T-Zero Genetic Species, etc. Simpler less demanding games everyone could play (on 7-14 Mhz Amiga hardware) like Slamtilt Pinball, Capital Punishment, Phoenix Fighters, etc performed better sales wise. In the end this nearly killed the Amiga gaming scene and Amigans are now mostly stuck to playing new versions of Amijeweled and linux game ports. The Amiga lost games like Grand Theft Auto to the PC, Team 17 released future versions of Worms on other platforms, future Lemmings versions would not hit the Amiga (the Amiga original supporting 2 player mice combat was the best version) and so forth.

Of course the PC had one big advantage over the Amiga situation, that's the resource hog Windows, many people will eventually buy a new PC as past Windows releases are being phased out. Likewise people are now upgrading classic Amigas or buy new Amigas to be able to run AmigaOS 4.1 properly.