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twesterm on 24 July 2007
libellule said:
Release quality games-- right now pretty bad, but getting better.

==> quality game ?
I see more quality game on PS3 or Xbox360 than in Wii,
Just go look the MGS4 demo video still exclusive to the PS3 or GT5 prologue trailer and u will understand why PS3 will sell well this Xmas and early 2008.



You misunderstood me, I was referring to games already released.  When you ask someone what they're playing on the PS3, you get 1 of 3 answers: R: FoM, Motorstorm, Folding@Home.  When you ask someone what they're playing on the Wii or 360 at the moment you get a wide variety of answers.  As I said, the PS3 is getting better games on the way, MGS4 included.

Repair their public image-- probably the hardest thing to fix.

==> no need,
PS3 lacked of game and price drop, both are coming.
Go say this to Microsoft, they really need to repair their public image.

true, MS does have a bad public image at the moment, but their console also has a fan base at the moment.  when you say Sony and the PS3, people think expensive and no games.
 


Price Drop-- They've done it once and it's still too expensive.

==> I completely agree.
That is the main probleme.
500$ is still too expensive.
But Xbox360, 2 years old console, still no price drop ...

Maybe, but we're not really talking about MS and they don't particularly need one at the moment (though they always help).

 

Add rumble-- hopefully they do this soon because people do in fact want this.

==> I dont think it is "must needed" parameter.
A paddle is a paddle with or without rumble.

The moment Sony mentioned possible rumble they were in trouble.  People are  now simply waiting for rumble before they buy a PS3.  It is a pretty big deal since it's now something people have come to expect.

Actually respect their customers-- which the PSP Slim proves they don't.

==> go say this to Microsoft again.

E3 2006 ==> E3 2008 : Sony big shit
E3 2007 ==> E3 2008 : Sony wake up : game are coming, price is droping

Agai, not talking about Ms here but since you brought it up, they did a great thing for their customers by extending the warranty (which was needed).  Sony brings out the Slim which could have been an incredible thing but they goofed it up.  They didn't touch the things people really wanted, disguised the features to make them sound better (more efficient battery use), and just added features that were better for Sony rather than the consumer.  Sony does not care about its customers.



 

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twesterm on 24 July 2007
whatever said:
ckmlb said:
DKII said:
Is there an actual point to this game yet or is it just a bunch of running around?

And I don't think the cloth simulation is really the game's main selling point. :p

You do know that the levels are all user created right? So you can make 'em just running around or a lot more complex than that. If this game is just running around then Mario is just jumping around :)

All I know is if this idea was Nintendo and they brought a game where players from all over the world create all the levels in very easy and fun ways and it featured co op creating and playing then this game would be welcomed as the second coming of christ but because it's Sony it gets all the skepticism.


If Nintendo had come out with this, then you and others here would be saying how kiddie and pointless it is. How it is so not "hard-core" and just for "casuals".


If it were on the Wii I might give it a rent since I have a Wii, but I would still be saying the same exact thing: unless there's something beyond building and sharing, it's going to get old after several days.

-edit-
Besides, I'm fairly sure I can already build and share a level with Elebits.  I could be wrong though, I've  never actually gotten around to trying the feature.



 

leo-j on 24 July 2007
omgwtfbbq said:
leo-j said:
HappySqurriel said:
leo-j said:
 

But this isnt just one game, LBP,killzone,mgs4(a system seller),uncharted,heavenlysword,ratchet,lair,and unreal tournament(systemseller) are all going to factor on the sales of the ps3,early next year lbp a "new" game that if brought to the world correctly as I stated before can sell consoles. Especially to the feminine and younger audience this game will apeal to. Folklore as well can help boost ps3 sales in the states with the console priced at $499.99, and with people willing to get those great games I wouldnt be suprised if 360 owners themselves purchase a ps3.


I know PS2 fans love this list but just look at it for a minute:

  • Little Big Planet: potentially a very good and interesting game but it won't sell. Most of the PS3's userbase has a built in dislike for anything that could be considered cute or childish. Much like how the XBox 360's userbase reacted to Viva Pinata, this game will be an obscure title that only a handful of gamers ever play.
  • Killzone 2: The sequel to a game that was endlessly hyped as a "Halo Killer" that eventually turned out to be an average and horribly flawed game. Killzone never sold particularly well and outside of Sony fans few people even care about this series.
  • Metal Gear Solid 4: I wouldn't count on this game until the second half of 2008.
  • Ratchet and Clank: I could be wrong, but I suspect that the vast majority of Ratchet games were sold to the more "typical" gamer on the PS2; essentially a group of people who will not spend $500 to play any game.
  • Lair: I'm calling it now, Lair is going to bomb and there is going to be a lot of mocking on these message boards. Factor 5's best game was Star Wars Rogue Squadren 2: Rogue Leader for the Gamecube; it had amazing graphics, was the best launch game available, had an amazingly popular licence (potentially at the peak of its popularity with all of the prequel hype), and was on a $200 system and yet it really didn't sell at amazing levels. Lair has the nice graphics but it won't stand out in the line-up like Rogue Leader did, it doesn't have the huge licence, and it isn't on an inexpensive system.
  • Heavenly Sword: Another game that will bomb. Essentially "God of war as a girl" but God of War really isn't that popular of a game; it sold just over 1 Million copies on the most popular console of all time, a console that every gamer either had or could easily afford.
  • Unreal Tournament: This game will sell a lot of hardware ... For the PC; I expect that high end graphics cards will sell well, and pre-packaged SLi systems will move at an amazing rate. Most serious online FPS players will choose to play this game on their PC.

You know what, I am willing to bet right now Im even going to tell a mod to list this, Little big planet will sell better than viva pinata if not double of wat pinata has sold. You dont see the hype sony fans even xbox fans see in this, people are willing to buy a ps3 just for this game. The first killzone sucked becuase the background sound was horrific. And that was fixed with the secound one. Ask anyone that has killzone, the graphcis were terrible and the sound was horrific but the story had huge potential.Killzone 2 compared to the first one is like comparing cod on psp and cod4 on 360. Unreal tournament will sell better on ps3 than on pc and that is very likely. God of war won several GOY awards,and heavenly sword wont bomb. Lair might bomb but heavenly sword wont bomb.

So you're saying LBP will sell at least 500k copies?

If it doesn't sell a whole lot more than that there is no way that it's going to be a huge system seller. Your prediction isn't exactly very daring. 

 

Im saying it will sell at least 700k copies.

 



 

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leo-j on 24 July 2007
twesterm said:
whatever said:
ckmlb said:
DKII said:
Is there an actual point to this game yet or is it just a bunch of running around?

And I don't think the cloth simulation is really the game's main selling point. :p

You do know that the levels are all user created right? So you can make 'em just running around or a lot more complex than that. If this game is just running around then Mario is just jumping around :)

All I know is if this idea was Nintendo and they brought a game where players from all over the world create all the levels in very easy and fun ways and it featured co op creating and playing then this game would be welcomed as the second coming of christ but because it's Sony it gets all the skepticism.


If Nintendo had come out with this, then you and others here would be saying how kiddie and pointless it is. How it is so not "hard-core" and just for "casuals".


 If it were on the Wii I might give it a rent since I have a Wii, but I would still be saying the same exact thing: unless there's something beyond building and sharing, it's going to get old after several days.


Just like super mario world got old.



 

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twesterm on 24 July 2007
leo-j said:
twesterm said:
whatever said:
ckmlb said:
DKII said:
Is there an actual point to this game yet or is it just a bunch of running around?

And I don't think the cloth simulation is really the game's main selling point. :p

You do know that the levels are all user created right? So you can make 'em just running around or a lot more complex than that. If this game is just running around then Mario is just jumping around :)

All I know is if this idea was Nintendo and they brought a game where players from all over the world create all the levels in very easy and fun ways and it featured co op creating and playing then this game would be welcomed as the second coming of christ but because it's Sony it gets all the skepticism.


If Nintendo had come out with this, then you and others here would be saying how kiddie and pointless it is. How it is so not "hard-core" and just for "casuals".


If it were on the Wii I might give it a rent since I have a Wii, but I would still be saying the same exact thing: unless there's something beyond building and sharing, it's going to get old after several days.


Just like super mario world got old.


Super Mario World and LBP are two completely different games. LBP is essentially a level editor that makes BSP blocks and shows off physics.

If you're going to compare to a game, it would be closer to Sim City in that it's a game without any real point (and not knocking on Sim City, I love the games) except so far LBP has even less of a point and a lesser scale than Sim City (build and manage an entire city versus building a level).



 

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LeroyBrown on 24 July 2007

Does anyone else break down laughing everytime they read Leo-J's sig?