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Legend11 said:

What if this game isn't the giant system seller that PS3 fans are hoping for?

What's with the "what if"? The era of the giant system-seller is over. Even the mighty Halo 3 only produced a spike amounting to some 250,000 units over three weeks before 360 sales resumed their normal course. Over this whole generation we've seen people buying consoles according to very different patterns from what they did in the past, and the "giant system seller" no longer factors into those patterns.

The bottom line here is that one game is not going to turn the tide for or against any console. The market just doesn't work that way anymore, and people hoping for it to do otherwise are only setting themselves up for disappointment.



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This game is so over hyped.



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Lol, I love Lunar Magic and SMG and I will probably end up getting a PS3 for this game plus Disgaea and Valkeryia Chronicles I sorta want, plus blu ray player and I never had a PS2 so lots of PS2 games.

 

Good luck finding a PS3 with Full BC or even Partial BC.







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PandaexpressPanda said:
...that combines fun with innovation

 

 Isn't that a bit too much 'Wii' to PS3?



 

 

 

 

 

TowlieIsABeast said:
This game is so over hyped.

 

lol yeah i already have it its really a great game, but i think that is a bit overhyped, not saying that is not a great game, but as i just said great game but not one of the best



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Probably not.

Let the fanboys commence!



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darthdevidem01 said:
Legend11 said:

What if this game isn't the giant system seller that PS3 fans are hoping for? Can the PS3 afford to lose ground this Christmas?

No your phrase should be....what if this game isn't the system seller for which I'm hoping.....as let us be realistic.

You never say anything positive or good about anything related to SONY or PS3.....as for PS3 loosing ground/////yeah if PS3 didn't loose ground in the xmas Halo 3 was released......it aint loosing it this xmas.

360 outsold it by 20K this week....thats pathetic for a console so cheap.

The Playstation Brand is topping chartz in Japan with the PSP.....the PS3 has a YOY 100% increase

the PS brand was in turmoil last year....now its on the rise.

Not being destroyed....but on the rise.

 

What the? Where has your reasoning gone?

The X360 price argument is kinda nutty, and you should know that, so I do not have to type it up again.

The Playstation Brand? The Playstation Brand? Come on. "The PsP is doing awesomely well in Japan" would be good, but that sounds like Sony Defence Force (or should I say Attack Force?)

The Ps3 is by no means YoY up 100%. If you exclude the fact that 2007 was an incomplete year for Europe, it may be, but for recent times, it's stupid.

From week ending 6th September to Week ending 18th October 08: 877K

Equavalient in 2007: 716K.

That's pretty darn far off.

 

The Playstation Brand sold 17.6M up to week ending 20th October last year. This year, it has sold 21.3M. If you remember that Ps3 had a late launch, it has barely increased at all, as a matter of fact, less than The Nintendo Brand or the Microsoft Brand (or whatever you want to call them).

 

For crying out loud, you used to post great post, and now you just pull data out of your behind?

 



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Oyvoyvoyv said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Legend11 said:

What if this game isn't the giant system seller that PS3 fans are hoping for? Can the PS3 afford to lose ground this Christmas?

No your phrase should be....what if this game isn't the system seller for which I'm hoping.....as let us be realistic.

You never say anything positive or good about anything related to SONY or PS3.....as for PS3 loosing ground/////yeah if PS3 didn't loose ground in the xmas Halo 3 was released......it aint loosing it this xmas.

360 outsold it by 20K this week....thats pathetic for a console so cheap.

The Playstation Brand is topping chartz in Japan with the PSP.....the PS3 has a YOY 100% increase

the PS brand was in turmoil last year....now its on the rise.

Not being destroyed....but on the rise.

 

What the? Where has your reasoning gone?

The X360 price argument is kinda nutty, and you should know that, so I do not have to type it up again.

The Playstation Brand? The Playstation Brand? Come on. "The PsP is doing awesomely well in Japan" would be good, but that sounds like Sony Defence Force (or should I say Attack Force?)

The Ps3 is by no means YoY up 100%. If you exclude the fact that 2007 was an incomplete year for Europe, it may be, but for recent times, it's stupid.

From week ending 6th September to Week ending 18th October 08: 877K

Equavalient in 2007: 716K.

That's pretty darn far off.

 

The Playstation Brand sold 17.6M up to week ending 20th October last year. This year, it has sold 21.3M. If you remember that Ps3 had a late launch, it has barely increased at all, as a matter of fact, less than The Nintendo Brand or the Microsoft Brand (or whatever you want to call them).

 

For crying out loud, you used to post great post, and now you just pull data out of your behind?

 

ofcourse the price argument isn't nutty.

Its a fact....the xbox 360 can't outsell a system with a much higher price adequately.

In NA every week PS3 is up 100% YOY (check the American data source posts with the %)

In EU its the same situation....you can do the comparison yourself.

http://vgchartz.com/hwtable.php?start=39453&end=39740

5 Jan 08 --- 18 Oct 08 ---------7,177,062

http://vgchartz.com/hwtable.php?cons%5B%5D=PS3&reg%5B%5D=Total&start=39089&end=39376

4 Jan 07 ---- 20 Oct 08 -------- 4,082,929

You know VERY well in the holidays the increase is much more dramatic

thats almost an increase of 100% YOY

The Legend clearly stated the Playstation brand was being destroyed.....I am baffled by this because the PS3 is almost going to outdo PS2's best year in EU this year itself (for reference & PROOF which yo think I'm not giving you check the thread with that title)

so I'm not pulling numbers out of my backside....what I'm saying is correct.

The Playstation brand is not being destroyed as Legend so clearly put it....it is vbeing revived due to strong PS3 sales this year & PSP resurgence in Japan.

Besides your last point only strenghtens my argument....as the Ps Brand has shown an increase YOY in sales so its not being "destroyed".

Please read the post I am responding to & see the context of what I'm typing before replying.

 

 

 



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darthdevidem01 said:

ofcourse the price argument isn't nutty.

Its a fact....the xbox 360 can't outsell a system with a much higher price adequately.

In NA every week PS3 is up 100% YOY (check the American data source posts with the %)

In EU its the same situation....you can do the comparison yourself.

http://vgchartz.com/hwtable.php?start=39453&end=39740

5 Jan 08 --- 18 Oct 08 ---------7,177,062

http://vgchartz.com/hwtable.php?cons%5B%5D=PS3®%5B%5D=Total&start=39089&end=39376

4 Jan 07 ---- 20 Oct 08 -------- 4,082,929

You know VERY well in the holidays the increase is much more dramatic

thats almost an increase of 100% YOY

The Legend clearly stated the Playstation brand was being destroyed.....I am baffled by this because the PS3 is almost going to outdo PS2's best year in EU this year itself (for reference & PROOF which yo think I'm not giving you check the thread with that title)

so I'm not pulling numbers out of my backside....what I'm saying is correct.

The Playstation brand is not being destroyed as Legend so clearly put it....it is vbeing revived due to strong PS3 sales this year & PSP resurgence in Japan.

Besides your last point only strenghtens my argument....as the Ps Brand has shown an increase YOY in sales so its not being "destroyed".

Please read the post I am responding to & see the context of what I'm typing before replying.

 

 

 

 

 Ps3 is up 100% in Americas - Correct. This year 2.6M, last year 1.4M, so close enough.

Ps3 is almost up 100% WW - Flawed. As I said,  If you exclude the fact that 2007 was an incomplete year for Europe, it may be. To get a fair perspective, you would need to take out the 1st quarter 2008 sales, which are 1433K. That leaves 5.7M vs 4.1M, or slightly less than a 50% increase. Nothing more than what should be expected, as even the 360 is seeing a 45% increase.

How did Legend state anything about the Playstation Brand? In your quote it said "What if this game isn't the giant system seller that PS3 fans are hoping for? Can the PS3 afford to lose ground this Christmas?". That's a very logical thing to say, and honestly, the thought has strifed me too.

Why the hell did you put the PsP into the conversation? It has nothing to do here.  I cannot fathom why you put it here. It isn't like the system has taken off worlwide, currently it's only 20% increased YoY (not saying that's bad, it's very good). d

As for the Ps3 outselling the Ps2's best year in Others, the Ps2 sold 8M in 2003. The Ps3 has currently sold 3.8M. That's mighty impressive of the Ps3, but not going to be anywhere near the Ps2's best year.

The Playstation Brand increased by a minimal sum (heck, now I'm saying it too), that was lower than its competition. How is that being on the rise?

 

By the way, I'm going to bed now. I apologize for leaving in the middle of a discussion, but it's getting late. Can't wait to see your reply tomorrow, but don't expect one from me before late tomorrow 



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