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redspear on 24 July 2007
steven787 said:
@the people in this thread and other who say impossible: Sony doesn't own the rights to any Final Fantasy game. They may have a stake in Square or vice versa I don't know. But it is obviously not a controlling one. For example: Nintendo only owned a small portion of Monolith, then bought them out. Monolith still made games for Sony consoles. See it's simple. I hate morons.

@ckmlb: Yes, I like some ports, and would look forward to remakes or ports of the games I mentioned. I am looking forward to FFIV on DS, for instance.

@fuzzmosis: yes.

@Redspear and Fazz: Final Fantasy VII is why PS1 took off. N64 was is in the lead at first.

The N64 was never ahead of the PS1. It did have a stronger first 6 month in sales(most of which were between sept and Dec in the US or the first 3 months). However in no market did the N64 ever even get near beating the PS1 in install base. The Saturn did beat out the PS1 for a bit but that was because it came out first they announced it at the CES and it was on sale the next day for 400 dollars and not too many people bought in teh US in Japan it was a different story. Also FF7 is not the reason the PS1 took off directly it was the first game to notably use CGI and that amazed people but there was already a growing install base and as I said it was Squares interest in making a larger game.

 

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS&reg1=All&cons2=N64&reg2=All&cons3=SAT&reg3=All



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steven787 on 24 July 2007
redspear said:
steven787 said:
@the people in this thread and other who say impossible: Sony doesn't own the rights to any Final Fantasy game. They may have a stake in Square or vice versa I don't know. But it is obviously not a controlling one. For example: Nintendo only owned a small portion of Monolith, then bought them out. Monolith still made games for Sony consoles. See it's simple. I hate morons.

@ckmlb: Yes, I like some ports, and would look forward to remakes or ports of the games I mentioned. I am looking forward to FFIV on DS, for instance.

@fuzzmosis: yes.

@Redspear and Fazz: Final Fantasy VII is why PS1 took off. N64 was is in the lead at first.

The N64 was never ahead of the PS1. It did have a stronger first 6 month in sales(most of which were between sept and Dec in the US or the first 3 months). However in no market did the N64 ever even get near beating the PS1 in install base. The Saturn did beat out the PS1 for a bit but that was because it came out first they announced it at the CES and it was on sale the next day for 400 dollars and not too many people bought in teh US in Japan it was a different story. Also FF7 is not the reason the PS1 took off directly it was the first game to notably use CGI and that amazed people but there was already a growing install base and as I said it was Squares interest in making a larger game.

 

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS&reg1=All&cons2=N64&reg2=All&cons3=SAT&reg3=All


 I just got PWN't, with a 't'.  I usually don't post stuff off the top of my head... I apologize.  I am working on a paper for school right now, and though I knew something, that I wasn't sure of and posted it.  I am sorry.  The first two parts I still stand by.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

your mother on 26 July 2007
omgwtfbbq said:
Starless said:
omgwtfbbq said:
I'll probably get crucified for this, but I don't think there's a single Square-Enix game I've ever played that I really enjoyed. I just don't like any of their games.

Am I alone?

Have you played Vagrant Story?

Nope I haven't. Never even heard of it.

flicking through the Wikipedia article it looks like it could be interesting.

 

As far as I'm concerned, Vagrant Story was the best Action RPG that SE ever came out with.

The combat system was simply amazing and one-of-a-kind when it came out. Even the intro movie that suddenly throws you into the thick of battle while teaching you the nuances of combat was unique back then.

Nowadays there are games (not necessarily in the RPG genre) that have borrowed these gameplay elements.

Get it if you can - you won't regret it. 



konohamaru on 26 July 2007

Vagrant Story actually got a perfect score of 40 from Famitsu. It was one of the best original game on Playstation. The fighting mechanist was in real-time and there is a really interesting weapon and leveling system. If I remember correctly depending on the weapon or item you use you would specialize in using it and master new technique. You can also create your own weapon. The cinematic was as good as in metal gear and the story was very good also.

Tactics Ogre on SNES I think is still the best turn-based strategy RPG games ever design on console.



WiteoutKing on 26 July 2007

Vagrant Story remains one of my favorite games, especially for a Sony console, or as a SE game.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

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Smashchu on 26 July 2007

The what exactly was the reason the PS1 did so well. Was it no competition?