Okay, I hadn't heard this Hillary line before... and my virus is acting up and won't let me play a video. I gotta reboot and try to watch this. I'm glad I didn't vote for her, hahaha.

EDIT: Okay I watched it.  Uh... I don't know what to say about that one really.  She didn't seem to be hateful when she said it, but it was really fucking weird and out of line.  It was way worse than Biden's line, and she's not as crazy as Biden so I can't cut her slack in the same way.  I have no fucking clue why she said something so stupid.  I guess she's racist enough to think that's funny.  Liberal racists are such a weird paradox.

Lol @ the Hillary video.

Not really.  I mean there is two kinds of racism.

I mean lets take Joe Biden for example.

Who said Washington had a worse school system then Iowa because their are more minorities in washington.  People like that believe minorties "need help" to get to where white people are.

As sad as it is.  The difference between a liberal and conservative racist is your opinion on "trainability".

Well that and your opinions on fiscal policy, other personal freedoms. (since the repubs and dems actually split this.), abortion... etc.

The Indian comment was definitely racists. However, I do not take offense to the articulate comment. I am offended when someone calls me boy but Joe grew up in a different time, different age and I will give him a pass on the Obama comment - but not on the Indian comment. Good call.

@ Rocket Pig

What I am saying is - there is no way New Orleans could have evacuated that many folks in that short amount of time. The SuperDome IS a fallout shelter. Had supplies been dropped to the folks there, they would have been fine. However, folks that tried to walk out over a bridge were turned away or shot. They were treated like second-class citizens. Was it their fault that they couldn't leave? The city is already under sea level, and to order a mandatory evacuation - and nada happens - who would foot that bill? Based on that - and the fact that the SuperDome is a nuclear fallout shelter - all the folks in N.O. needed were supplies. Drop them in by helo - or use amphibous tanks or ships to get the supplies in. I agree with you, Pig, that Bush and Co. messed up. And yeah, in retrospect, Blanco and Nagin share some blame - but not as much as the CINC.

Edit: About 'people like you.' You (and your *people*) have it great, man. My people, not so much. Just 40 years ago, my people, not yours, were strung up and we had to fight for the right to vote, and not worry about being lynched. Please, let's not go there.

"You people"? 

But seriously, I'm perfectly aware that local preparations were inadequate and Nagin was slow to give the evacuation order, etc. 

The screw ups in New Orleans weren't directly linked to racism of W. just incompetence BUT because the victims were black the pressure from other people around him was absent.

I'm not saying that Republicans are racists, as Rubang said, their dislike of poor people (in non-election years) makes them seem that way.

What is upsetting about this "Buck" is that there are GOPers in CA that are saying she shouldn't have apologized (see page 1). She refuses to admit that it's wrong, she apologized if it offended any one and said it was in poor taste.

We all slip up and get our foot in our mouths sometime. It's okay to say some things in some places but not in others. Some times a slight change in degree changes something from insensitive or distasteful to racist.

And there is a difference between racism and ignorance. Joe Biden's comment was about diversity, poorly worded and insensitive (because he is an idiot). It wasn't meant as an insult or even a joke.

This was a racist joke. Not the same thing.

The John McCain Robocaller saying Obama "has worked closely with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, whose organization bombed the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon, a judge's home and killed Americans." Many GOPers either denounce it or are disconnecting themselves from it because McCain is race baiting people who are afraid of brown people.

This isn't a joke, it's a type of connection that is barely questioned in any other candidate, and not by the opposing candidate himself.

The reason I bring it up... is the behavior of McCain and the campaign directly encorages the racism seen in that email newsletter.

I think it's a shame, whether he wins or loses, that John McCain will go down in history for running a racist campaign. The fact that he thinks it will work shows that he is completely out of touch.

What is sad is that Republican supporters in this thread justify the racism of their party by pointing out that they aren't the only racists. Just because Biden might be racist doesn't make it ok.......pathetic.

We did it just fine for Gustav.

One of the main issues keeping proper aid from getting to New Orleans in a timely fashion was Gov. Blanco.  States Rights, as decimated as they are these days, do still exist, and Bush couldn't just start shipping tons of crap into Louisiana left and right.

It was up to Blanco to call up the Louisiana National Guard.  It was up to Blanco to request the aid of the Texas Nation Guard (which she eventually did, but my gosh did it take her long enough), and it was up to Blanco to okay certain assistance from the Federal Government.

Bush was in Southern Lousiana immediately after the storm, and he asked Nagin what, in his opinion, would be necesarry for the people in the Superdome.  Nagin responded, and from there Bush went to Blanco, who asked if she could think about the matter for a day or two.

Bush, Blanco, and Nagin all messed things up royally, but Blanco was the chief offender, imo.  Nagin was inexperienced, and Bush's errors were rather indirect (as Final-Fan said, turning FEMA into a joke), but Blanco made utterly stupid errors left and right during the days immediately following Katrina.

And then there's the millions in relief money that got tied up in Baton Rouge for months after the fact.

Just can't let go of that race card, can you?

When I said "people like you", I was referring to partisan Democrats. Ugh.