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BenKenobi88 on 23 July 2007

I normally upgrade every 3 to 4 years with my PC...

You people have weird views about PC gaming...it confuses me...



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kber81 on 23 July 2007
your mother said:

And about th PS3 being 10x faster than an average PC: I'm sorry, but I beg to differ. I can't see how a PS3 can provide me with the tools I need to work, for instance. I don't see how I could multitask Photoshop CS2, Firefox with 15 tabs open, Dreamweaver, Illustrator, Powerpoint, Office (Word and Powerpoint) and Lotus Notes all on at the same time, with a PS3 with equal speed, let alone faster.


 Actually I thought it is obvious I'm talking about gaming...



your mother on 23 July 2007
kber81 said:
your mother said:

And about th PS3 being 10x faster than an average PC: I'm sorry, but I beg to differ. I can't see how a PS3 can provide me with the tools I need to work, for instance. I don't see how I could multitask Photoshop CS2, Firefox with 15 tabs open, Dreamweaver, Illustrator, Powerpoint, Office (Word and Powerpoint) and Lotus Notes all on at the same time, with a PS3 with equal speed, let alone faster.


Actually I thought it is obvious I'm talking about gaming...

Well, I thought it was obvious the PS3 was more than just a game console...

 

 



kber81 on 23 July 2007
your mother said:

Well, I thought it was obvious the PS3 was more than just a game console...


 



Kwaad on 23 July 2007

I've been building computers for years. I will tell you this much, that you can not build a computer to rival the PS3 graphically for 500$.

 

Let's start with some facts.

FACT #1
             Just becuase the PS3 has 7900GTX * 1.5 or a 8800GTX * .75. Does not mean that a 8800GTX will look better than what is on the PS3. Why? Because of optimizations, and hardware shortcuts. This type of optimization can not be done on a PC easily. That is why PCs are going to Unifyed Shader Models, as they scale MUCH better. Overall the Graphics chip on a console gets 4x more power than an 'equivilent' graphics card for the PC.

FACT #2
             You need at least a dual core processor to even compare to the 360. Screw compareing to the PS3. It's not gonna happen.

 

So here we are. I will build a computer that compares to a 360, becuase the CPU on the PS3 cant be rivaled with CPUs on the market today.

CASE: 89.99+15.99 = 105.98 (the case needs to be of good design to keep noise, and cool the graphics cards)
Motherboard: 89.99+6.61 = 96.60
Processor:  222.90 (It's not the cheapest processor, but the best bang for buck processor, when you OC it)
PowerSupply:  79.99 (Once agian it's not the cheapest, but it's one of the cheapest that will last/work)
Memory: 118.99+4.99=123.98 (2gb cheap memory)
HDD: 36.99+6.14=43.13 (cheap-ass 80gb HDD)
Graphics Cards:  279.99+6.33=286.32*2=572.64
Windows Vesta: 214.99+4.99=219.98

This dosent include quite a few of the things you need to build a computer, namely a DVD drive, and a few other nit picky things I would point out.

But with what it costs to build the system itself.

$1465.20

And for me, I have to pay 9.25% sales tax on top of that.

$1600.73 is the total for me to build a system that truely rivals the 360/PS3

Now you wanna show me how you build a system that can do what the PS3/360 can for 400-600$ Be my guest. 

 



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your mother on 23 July 2007
Kwaad said:

I've been building computers for years. I will tell you this much, that you can not build a computer to rival the PS3 graphically for 500$.

(mumbo-jumbo) 

Now you wanna show me how you build a system that can do what the PS3/360 can for 400-600$ Be my guest.

Wow - for years! I thought I was the only one...

Two things I do know for sure:

- A 500$ computer will allow me to be far more productive than I ever will be on a PS3 with its Linux and limited RAM for my non-gaming tasks (and before you say anything, the PS3 is not just a game machine - we both can agree on that, right? I mean, with the CELL processor being 10x faster than the average PC and all that...)

- A 500$ computer will allow me to play any game released for the PC that came out this year. Actually, my 2-year-old computer still handles Doom3 at 720p with aplomb at high settings, and manages 20fps on ultra settings. Being 2 years old, I reckon it costs much less than 500$. Not too shabby.

As for how to build a system that cheap, well, you have years of experience building computers - you go figure that out.



Kwaad on 23 July 2007
your mother said:
Kwaad said:

I've been building computers for years. I will tell you this much, that you can not build a computer to rival the PS3 graphically for 500$.

(mumbo-jumbo)

Now you wanna show me how you build a system that can do what the PS3/360 can for 400-600$ Be my guest.

Wow - for years! I thought I was the only one...

Two things I do know for sure:

- A 500$ computer will allow me to be far more productive than I ever will be on a PS3 with its Linux and limited RAM for my non-gaming tasks (and before you say anything, the PS3 is not just a game machine - we both can agree on that, right? I mean, with the CELL processor being 10x faster than the average PC and all that...)

- A 500$ computer will allow me to play any game released for the PC that came out this year. Actually, my 2-year-old computer still handles Doom3 at 720p with aplomb at high settings, and manages 20fps on ultra settings. Being 2 years old, I reckon it costs much less than 500$. Not too shabby.

As for how to build a system that cheap, well, you have years of experience building computers - you go figure that out.


My PS3 can play Crysis style games. Can your 500$ computer play them?

My PS2 can play 4 year old games too! It only costs ~130$ today tho. Not 500$ 



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your mother on 23 July 2007
Kwaad said:
your mother said:
Kwaad said:

I've been building computers for years. I will tell you this much, that you can not build a computer to rival the PS3 graphically for 500$.

(mumbo-jumbo)

Now you wanna show me how you build a system that can do what the PS3/360 can for 400-600$ Be my guest.

Wow - for years! I thought I was the only one...

Two things I do know for sure:

- A 500$ computer will allow me to be far more productive than I ever will be on a PS3 with its Linux and limited RAM for my non-gaming tasks (and before you say anything, the PS3 is not just a game machine - we both can agree on that, right? I mean, with the CELL processor being 10x faster than the average PC and all that...)

- A 500$ computer will allow me to play any game released for the PC that came out this year. Actually, my 2-year-old computer still handles Doom3 at 720p with aplomb at high settings, and manages 20fps on ultra settings. Being 2 years old, I reckon it costs much less than 500$. Not too shabby.

As for how to build a system that cheap, well, you have years of experience building computers - you go figure that out.


My PS3 can play Crysis style games. Can your 500$ computer play them?


That's incredible that your PS3 can play games that aren't even available yet.

I was wrong - I simply cannot argue against logic like that. The PS3 truly is future-proof!

Let me ask you this: Can your PS3 multitask like my 500$ PC can (check my previous post to see what kind of apps I run on a daily basis) ?

Oh, and my 2-year-old PC that was worth 500$... two years ago? I wonder how much something like that would cost today new... 



Kwaad on 23 July 2007

This aint worth arguing. The 500$ PC reigns supreme, and is better than a PS3, becuase the PS3 sucks.

And I said Crysis like games.



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akuma587 on 23 July 2007

Man, watch out. The PS3 can't do word processing and burn DVD's. Man, looks like you will have to shell out $300 for a computer that can do that. O wait, that is still less expensive than a high-end computer whose processor and video card and RAM must be replaced AT LEAST every two years in order to remain competitive.

Why are people still trying to make the argument that computer gaming isn't that expensive compared to console gaming?



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