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FishyJoe said:
Oh Sony, what a tangled web we weave. Do they have to always tell half truths?

No not always half truths sometimes they flat out lie. ie) "We owe a debt to Nintendo for keeping the industry going in the last couple of years; they're the ones who have kept it going."



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Really i would be upset if batterylife actually decreased but the option of bateries is kinda cool too. I think I would probably use less power on the bateries if I hook it up with the audio video out too if it be in the car or at home. While 5 hours should be fine for most times I guess I could bring the bigger battery for long trips?

Alot of folks here seem to be all about what was wrong about the PSP redesign or Sony should have changed more. I was just wondering What was exactly "changed"in the DS - DS Lite? I see it sold alot of units but it seems all Nintendo has to do is change colors to sell units and make fans happy. while Sony is held to a different standard altogether.

I still do not have a handheld since the first release of the GB SP but I am definitly leaning towards the PSP "slim" the games on PSP are more of what i Like since i like the whole console game feel of it.



I don't see the problem with the PSP's battery life anyway. 6 hours is more than adequate before a refuelling surely...what do some people want....24 hours battery life?

Looking at most portable machines, digital camera, camcorder, ipod etc...the battery life in these machines isn't anything to write home about. Doesn't the Ipod Video only give you around 2 hours of video watching....and I know that camcorders generally only give you around 2 hours of continual shooting or watching.



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)

twesterm said:
DKII said:
Standby doesn't count, it's a power-saving mode because it's really not being used. ;P Both systems can probably last for days on stand-by.

So is anything *actually* improved in the new PSP? Slightly thinner but same appearance, and a video out option?

There's a faster CPU I believe, but the developers can only take so much advantage of that because the game must still be playable on the old PSP. Other than that, it was a very lame redesign.

Oh, and apparently they fixed the D-Pad but left the thumbstick and shoulder buttons alone.


The CPU is the same. Sony just stop preventing developers from using it at its full clock speed. The PSP CPU has always been a 333mhz chip. Sony intially limited games to running at 222mhz, the 267mhz, and now finally over two years later developers actually get the full 333mhz they were promised.

As to the specific topic of the PSP's battery life, reducing the power consumption of the PSP is an excellent idea that is ruined by the lower capacity battery. Is Sony purposely trying to fail? Did Sony send their brain on vacation before the launch of the PSP? The company behind the PS1 and PS2 can't be the same company behind the PSP and PS3. I swear a Nintendo and Microsoft shadow council is running Sony these days. There is no way a competent company would continue to make such obvious and bonedheaded mistakes. I refuse to believe it.



I think you guys are giving some completely BS numbers on your PSP battery life.  I don't know how you guys are getting 6+ hours on your PSPs. I'm lucky to get 4 on mine (usually 3).



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naznatips said:
I think you guys are giving some completely BS numbers on your PSP battery life. I don't know how you guys are getting 6+ hours on your PSPs. I'm lucky to get 4 on mine (usually 3).

 Honestly, I think it'a mainly 14 year old fanboy twits that just don't know the concept of time or want to make the PSP seem better than it is in order to justify/defend their purchase.



From the article comments: "Look on the bright side. The smaller the battery, the less likely it is to start a fatal fire. They should probably put that in their marketing."

 

As for the original PSP battery life? 7 hours? ROFL

I love it when fanboys feel the need to lie to justify their possestions. IGN did dozens of tests of dozens of PSPs. Results are nicly tabulated and open for anyone to see. http://psp.ign.com/articles/574/574557p2.html

Basic results:

-Gameplay w/speakers = 3.5 hours

-Gameplay w/headphones = 5.1 hours

 

 

As for the redesigned battery life? The whole thing makes perfect sense. If the old PSP had crappy battery life why shouldn't the new one? I can imagine the engineers talking it over...

Yamoto-san: "Okay, the new design is completed, it uses 50% as much power"

Nakashima: "Good, but we don't want this PSP to be that different from the old one"

Yamoto-san: "Hmm... We could just put in a battery that is only 50% as powerful"

Pure genius.



NorthStar said:
Really i would be upset if batterylife actually decreased but the option of bateries is kinda cool too. I think I would probably use less power on the bateries if I hook it up with the audio video out too if it be in the car or at home. While 5 hours should be fine for most times I guess I could bring the bigger battery for long trips?

Alot of folks here seem to be all about what was wrong about the PSP redesign or Sony should have changed more. I was just wondering What was exactly "changed"in the DS - DS Lite? I see it sold alot of units but it seems all Nintendo has to do is change colors to sell units and make fans happy. while Sony is held to a different standard altogether.

I still do not have a handheld since the first release of the GB SP but I am definitly leaning towards the PSP "slim" the games on PSP are more of what i Like since i like the whole console game feel of it.

Are you kidding?

DS Lite differences vs. PSP Slim differences:

-Weight

DS Lite becomes 21% lighter

PSP becomes 33% lighter, but if you add back in the old battery it goes back to nearly the same weight (and all the weight is on one side)

-Size

The DS Lite has 42% less volume, making it much more compact.

The PSP Slim has 19% less volume, making it basically the same size.

-Battery Life

The DS Lite took the DS's 6-10 hour battery life and raised it to 15-19 hours.

PSP Slim is still 3-6 hours (now 1/5th of the DS's battery life) unless you either buy an old PSP battery or use your old one, which raises it to 6-8 hours, but make it heavy again and awkward with a bulge in the back.

-Control Improvements

DS Lite improves the thumb pad, the stylus, shifts the power button (can't tell you how many times I accidentally hit the power button before) and makes it a power switch instead, built in microphone shifted to a more reasonable location, stylus location shifted to the side where it can be pulled out and stored again much quicker.

PSP Slim improves the thumb pad. Wifi switch moved to the top so that you don't accidentally bump it. The bad L and R buttons and analog nub are left the same.

-Gaming improvements

DS Lite has a much brighter screen, and allows for 4 adjustable levels of brightness. It didn't lower load times, but no DS games have long load times anyway, as they all run on cartridges.

PSP Lite added more ram so that there is the possibility that in the future, if developers happen to know how to do it, and decide to put the effort into it, some games could have slightly faster load times. All old games retain their same BS load times, and Jack couldn't site any new games that will take advantage of this. If I am only getting 3 hours of battery life I don't like spending 10 minutes a game waiting on load screens.

-Multimedia functions

DS never had any, this remains unchanged.

The PSP now has a place to hook up a cord to your TV so you can watch the dead UMD format on your home television (yay?). The cord is not included. Costs for it haven't been released but count on $20-$30.

-Aesthetic improvements

The DS Lite looks completely different from the DS. It's small, sleeker, and matchest the aesthetic style of the Wii. It comes in 3 new colors: polar white, onyx black, and coral pink (more if you get it from Japan).

The PSP Slim is aesthetically identical other than being about 1 cm thinner. It added ice silver as a color and polar white (only if you buy the star wars pack).

 

So, in conclusion, the DS update may not have been huge, but they did a lot to change the system and they actually did everything they claimed. If I get a PSP slim, what is going to change? Nothing, that's what. I don't use crappy UMD movies on my PSP, I'm not going to buy a new cord, it's not going to fix the shitty load times, and it's going to have the same 3 hour battery life unless I want to make it heavy and awkward (for a small increase). There is no reason at all for me to purchase a new PSP when they didn't even fix the problems I have with my old PSP. Yes people have the right to be angry with Sony, they outright lied about their redesign.



naznatips said:
NorthStar said:
Really i would be upset if batterylife actually decreased but the option of bateries is kinda cool too. I think I would probably use less power on the bateries if I hook it up with the audio video out too if it be in the car or at home. While 5 hours should be fine for most times I guess I could bring the bigger battery for long trips?

Alot of folks here seem to be all about what was wrong about the PSP redesign or Sony should have changed more. I was just wondering What was exactly "changed"in the DS - DS Lite? I see it sold alot of units but it seems all Nintendo has to do is change colors to sell units and make fans happy. while Sony is held to a different standard altogether.

I still do not have a handheld since the first release of the GB SP but I am definitly leaning towards the PSP "slim" the games on PSP are more of what i Like since i like the whole console game feel of it.

Are you kidding? 

DS Lite differences vs. PSP Slim differences:

-Weight

DS Lite becomes 21% lighter

PSP becomes 33% lighter, but if you add back in the old battery it goes back to nearly the same weight (and all the weight is on one side)

-Size

The DS Lite has 42% less volume, making it much more compact.

The PSP Slim has 19% less volume, making it basically the same size.

-Battery Life

The DS Lite took the DS's 6-10 hour battery life and raised it to 15-19 hours.

PSP Slim is still 3-6 hours (now 1/5th of the DS's battery life) unless you either buy an old PSP battery or use your old one, which raises it to 6-8 hours, but make it heavy again and awkward with a bulge in the back. 

-Control Improvements

DS Lite improves the thumb pad, the stylus, shifts the power button (can't tell you how many times I accidentally hit the power button before) and makes it a power switch instead, built in microphone shifted to a more reasonable location, stylus location shifted to the side where it can be pulled out and stored again much quicker.

PSP Slim improves the thumb pad.  Wifi switch moved to the top so that you don't accidentally bump it.  The bad L and R buttons and analog nub are left the same.

-Gaming improvements

DS Lite has a much brighter screen, and allows for 4 adjustable levels of brightness.   It didn't lower load times, but no DS games have long load times anyway, as they all run on cartridges.

PSP Lite added more ram so that there is the possibility that in the future, if developers happen to know how to do it, and decide to put the effort into it, some games could have slightly faster load times.  All old games retain their same BS load times, and Jack couldn't site any new games that will take advantage of this.  If I am only getting 3 hours of battery life I don't like spending 10 minutes a game waiting on load screens.

-Multimedia functions

DS never had any, this remains unchanged.

The PSP now has a place to hook up a cord to your TV so you can watch the dead UMD format on your home television (yay?).  The cord is not included.  Costs for it haven't been released but count on $20-$30.

-Aesthetic improvements

The DS Lite looks completely different from the DS.  It's small, sleeker, and matchest the aesthetic style of the Wii.  It comes in 3 new colors: polar white, onyx black, and coral pink (more if you get it from Japan).

The PSP Slim is aesthetically identical other than being about 1 cm thinner.  It added ice silver as a color and polar white (only if you buy the star wars pack).  

 

So, in conclusion, the DS update may not have been huge, but they did a lot to change the system and they actually did everything they claimed.  If I get a PSP slim, what is going to change?  Nothing, that's what.  I don't use crappy UMD movies on my PSP, I'm not going to buy a new cord, it's not going to fix the shitty load times, and it's going to have the same 3 hour battery life unless I want to make it heavy and awkward (for a small increase).  There is no reason at all for me to purchase a new PSP when they didn't even fix the problems I have with my own PSP.  Yes people have the right to be angry with Sony, they outright lied about their redesign.

The 64mb ram, is something good, cuz now the internet is double the speed, and game loads should be increased easily. Those wont do any difference in graphics, but its good its all good.

 



 

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leo-j said:
naznatips said:
NorthStar said:
Really i would be upset if batterylife actually decreased but the option of bateries is kinda cool too. I think I would probably use less power on the bateries if I hook it up with the audio video out too if it be in the car or at home. While 5 hours should be fine for most times I guess I could bring the bigger battery for long trips?

Alot of folks here seem to be all about what was wrong about the PSP redesign or Sony should have changed more. I was just wondering What was exactly "changed"in the DS - DS Lite? I see it sold alot of units but it seems all Nintendo has to do is change colors to sell units and make fans happy. while Sony is held to a different standard altogether.

I still do not have a handheld since the first release of the GB SP but I am definitly leaning towards the PSP "slim" the games on PSP are more of what i Like since i like the whole console game feel of it.

Are you kidding?

DS Lite differences vs. PSP Slim differences:

-Weight

DS Lite becomes 21% lighter

PSP becomes 33% lighter, but if you add back in the old battery it goes back to nearly the same weight (and all the weight is on one side)

-Size

The DS Lite has 42% less volume, making it much more compact.

The PSP Slim has 19% less volume, making it basically the same size.

-Battery Life

The DS Lite took the DS's 6-10 hour battery life and raised it to 15-19 hours.

PSP Slim is still 3-6 hours (now 1/5th of the DS's battery life) unless you either buy an old PSP battery or use your old one, which raises it to 6-8 hours, but make it heavy again and awkward with a bulge in the back.

-Control Improvements

DS Lite improves the thumb pad, the stylus, shifts the power button (can't tell you how many times I accidentally hit the power button before) and makes it a power switch instead, built in microphone shifted to a more reasonable location, stylus location shifted to the side where it can be pulled out and stored again much quicker.

PSP Slim improves the thumb pad. Wifi switch moved to the top so that you don't accidentally bump it. The bad L and R buttons and analog nub are left the same.

-Gaming improvements

DS Lite has a much brighter screen, and allows for 4 adjustable levels of brightness. It didn't lower load times, but no DS games have long load times anyway, as they all run on cartridges.

PSP Lite added more ram so that there is the possibility that in the future, if developers happen to know how to do it, and decide to put the effort into it, some games could have slightly faster load times. All old games retain their same BS load times, and Jack couldn't site any new games that will take advantage of this. If I am only getting 3 hours of battery life I don't like spending 10 minutes a game waiting on load screens.

-Multimedia functions

DS never had any, this remains unchanged.

The PSP now has a place to hook up a cord to your TV so you can watch the dead UMD format on your home television (yay?). The cord is not included. Costs for it haven't been released but count on $20-$30.

-Aesthetic improvements

The DS Lite looks completely different from the DS. It's small, sleeker, and matchest the aesthetic style of the Wii. It comes in 3 new colors: polar white, onyx black, and coral pink (more if you get it from Japan).

The PSP Slim is aesthetically identical other than being about 1 cm thinner. It added ice silver as a color and polar white (only if you buy the star wars pack).

 

So, in conclusion, the DS update may not have been huge, but they did a lot to change the system and they actually did everything they claimed. If I get a PSP slim, what is going to change? Nothing, that's what. I don't use crappy UMD movies on my PSP, I'm not going to buy a new cord, it's not going to fix the shitty load times, and it's going to have the same 3 hour battery life unless I want to make it heavy and awkward (for a small increase). There is no reason at all for me to purchase a new PSP when they didn't even fix the problems I have with my own PSP. Yes people have the right to be angry with Sony, they outright lied about their redesign.

The 64mb ram, is something good, cuz now the internet is double the speed, and game loads should be increased easily. Those wont do any difference in graphics, but its good its all good.

 


 Just like the Wii and DS internet browser, who really cares about internet on a gaming system?  If you're using internet, it means you're likely near a computer that has a better and bigger browser.

As for the loading times, it will help some, but no developer will ever be able to develop strictly for the increased ram because anyone with an old PSP would not want that game.  You could make the argument that the slim will completely replace the old PSP, but with updates like these, I would imagine a lot of people that already have a PSP, all 20 million of them, will not be upgrading.

As I've said a few times now, this is just a slap in the face and shows that Sony just doesn't care about its consumers.