Who are you arguing with, btw?  If its not yourself, maybe you could directly respond to a post, instead of rambling... is it my post you're referring to?  I'm not really sure.

What a stupid thread. The reason hardcore hate the wii is because there is no wii game with a deep or heck even semi good storyline on par with some hollyood movie narratives. It seems no one making games for the wii has any knowledge of how to write a decent plot so how am I supposed to respective and enjoy a system that lags so far behind in this basic department? Not to mention wii games tend to be less challanging.

ahh poor --OkeyDokey-- ,Rol managed to get rid of his most hated . Good thing i'm a casual gamer or I would hate the wii ....

Bandwidth issues made it hard to quote earlier.

And the jist of your comment seems to be that developers abandon the games you like because it costs less to make casual games.

It ALWAYS costs less to make low budget games. The Wii didn't magically make that happen.

But look at Hollywood? Are the big splasy movies gone? No. They just have ways to ensure they rarely flop, by using outlets other than box office.

That is what the Wii is trying to do. Get bigger outlets for gaming audiences, so that gaming thrives.

But don't think they are abandoning the big, splashy games. Nintendo is just trying to show you don't have to blow $15-$100 million dollars to get that kind of gaming experience.

I said nothing about companies reducing game budgets.

I said they will target the console which will garner them the most profit.  The Wii garners profit due to sheer numbers, not because the games are necessarily cheaper to make.

The point I was getting at is that, by nature of being so far below the other consoles, in terms of performance, anyone who likes what the HD consoles have to offer will eventually be starved out by the success of the Wii, and the publishers' attention to the Wii.

I said nothing about my own preference, either.  I am merely answering the posed question.  Its not some attack on the Wii, bro.  This is just the hard truth of the situation.  Money goes/is spent where its best returned -- i.e. the Wii.  And the people who like what the HD consoles offer, and the Wii doesn't, really dislike that.  I'm not putting my personal opinion in that statement, I am merely stating the obvious.

No, I wrote about reducing game budgets. You wrote about Wii killing hardcore gaming because the money is in the casual.

Money is in BOTH. You all just want it to be only hardcore, and you just can't wrap your heads around how focusing on one hurts the audience and stagnates the industry.

Yes, focusing on casual would hurt just as much. And Nintendo is not doing that. It's mainly to get a wider audience.

As for HD beging "starved out by the success of the Wii", deal with it. What do you think happened in the 6th gen? A three-way tie?

Or do you think Wii will pull even more developer support than the PS2 did? Aren't you forgetting the PS2 had the majority support from the beginning, and that the other consoles have already proven they can sell games?

Stop with the doom and gloom. Those consoles are still getting games, even if the Wii gets the majority eventually.

People buy a Wii because it's a NES, Genesis, Master System, SNES, N64, GameCube and Wii all in one machine. Try beating decades of nostalgia and fun with HD graphics...Oh wait you can't...

And sadly, the only good system there is Genesis. :(

We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one :)

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yea your wrong.. thats not Riot.. thats actually someone that posted on this thread, that owns a PS3, WII, and XBOX 360. So if his opinion is that the wii is a terrible console than so be it, he is entitled to his opinion, why? He owns one, who? Well its up to him to say who he is.