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No, actually, he didn't.



Any game in the clear cartridge was a GBC-only title. These began being released at system launch.


Pokemon Gold and Silver were games marketed for the Game Boy Color and designed to have color palettes when used in a GBC, but they were Game Boy cartridges. Note that Crystal has the clear cartridge - it's a GBC-only title.

Easiest way to tell is that the classic GB carts have a concave logo at the top, while GBC carts are convex. Also, all classic GB carts have a notch on top to fit in the GB. GBC-only carts do not have that, and do not fit in the classic GB.

Classic GB titles were made all the way into the GBA's lifespan - the last one was released in mid-2002. Obviously, therefore, the GBC's life didn't have a transitional period between it and the GB.



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Why would there be *any* DSi only games. The only unique features are the camera (a very small % of games) and then there's the down loadable games service has hasn't even been fleshed out yet.

I would think the DSi would be part of the DS sales base. It will still play 100% of all games out now and future and there will probably only ever be a tiny amount of games that are DSi only due to the camera.

If the original rumors were true that it had two touch screens I could easily concede but, even Nintendo has said this is simply a continuation of the DS. Not a new model like the GBA was to the GBC.



There will be only DSi software.

Whether that will be only downloadables or a couple brand new games remains to be seen.



superchunk said:
Why would there be *any* DSi only games. The only unique features are the camera (a very small % of games) and then there's the down loadable games service has hasn't even been fleshed out yet.

I would think the DSi would be part of the DS sales base. It will still play 100% of all games out now and future and there will probably only ever be a tiny amount of games that are DSi only due to the camera.

If the original rumors were true that it had two touch screens I could easily concede but, even Nintendo has said this is simply a continuation of the DS. Not a new model like the GBA was to the GBC.

This is basically how I see things going, but I think it would be nice to be able to keep them seperate too, if only too see just how successful this new model is. It's true that teh DS and the DS lite are included together, but they also have the exact same features and can play pretty much all the same games. The DSi gets rid of the GBA slot and adds other features, so I'd really enjoy teh chance to compare teh sales of two similar, yet distinctly different systems by the same company to see how they actually perform.



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thetonestarr said:

No, actually, he didn't.



Any game in the clear cartridge was a GBC-only title. These began being released at system launch.


Pokemon Gold and Silver were games marketed for the Game Boy Color and designed to have color palettes when used in a GBC, but they were Game Boy cartridges. Note that Crystal has the clear cartridge - it's a GBC-only title.

Easiest way to tell is that the classic GB carts have a concave logo at the top, while GBC carts are convex. Also, all classic GB carts have a notch on top to fit in the GB. GBC-only carts do not have that, and do not fit in the classic GB.

Classic GB titles were made all the way into the GBA's lifespan - the last one was released in mid-2002. Obviously, therefore, the GBC's life didn't have a transitional period between it and the GB.

 Trust me, he did. It is a helluva lot shorter than what you typed, and gave me a better understanding of why I observed what I had. Your long winded explanation still levaes me wondering about the following image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Pokemon_gold.jpg His explained it to me.



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Perhaps you misunderstood.

His was wrong.

 

Also, I'm not sure why my explanation left you wondering... when I specifically addressed the game you're referring to.



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Claiming a game is marketed for it is not the same as saying the game was (essentially) released for it. You can see it however you want, but Nintendo called the game a Gameboy Color game and they are the ones who own it. I don't see how you can call it anything other than a gameboy color game really. Just because they eventually made carts that only fit into the Gameboy Color slot doesn't mean the earlier games weren't released for the system.



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They didn't "eventually" make carts that only fit into the Gameboy Color. I already stated this. Those games were available from launch. I'd know - I got a GBC for Christmas '98.

 

And the fact is, PKMN Gold/Silver physically are identical to classic GameBoy carts in construction and hardware. Therefore, they are GameBoy games. Like I said, just because Nintendo marketed them as GBC games does not mean they were. They were GB games optimized for GBC, as already stated before.

This is like if Nintendo made a game that had Wii-specific features and was sold in a Wii case, but was on an 80mm Gamecube disc and could be played in a Gamecube. Is it a Wii game that the Gamecube can play, or is it a Gamecube game optimized for the Wii and sold as a Wii game? It'll be listed as a Wii game, yes, but for all technical purposes, it's a Gamecube game.



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I think any developer that makes a game that utilises the top touch screen would be extremely foolish as you would be reducing your userbase from like 100million to 5million. Anyway I think nintendo has already said the top touch screen won't be used for catridge games. So the sales of lite, phat and i should definitely be lumped together. Seperating dsi because of downloadable games that can't be played on the other versions would almost be as silly as separating 360 arcade sales from sales of the other versions because it doesn't have hard drive space for xbox live games.



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